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In his Perennial Philosophy, Aldous Leonard Huxley   gave a beautiful example from ancient Chinese literature of the sign of a great artist: Ching, a famous artist who made sculptures of supernatural* beauty , was asked how he made such art.
His method was to rid the mind from obstacles: in the first day he meditated and got rid of the desire to become rich. The next day he meditated, and got rid of the desire for prestige and fame. In the third day, of the desire for power, and so on every day. On the seventh day he went to the woods, found some wood, and made a sculpture. All his secret,was in the preparation of his state of mind and heart.


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Naturestudio would encourage the love for the beauty of Nature,
Spiritual self awareness, through Art and Philosophy,
and peaceful solutions for world conflicts.

Naturestudio officially a VZW since 2010,
a non-Governmental, non-profit organization.
A concept of Geraldine Fonseca Chapman (van Chapman)
Co founder: Myriam Vandenberghe an  artist, and a bibliothecarian. .
New:collaborator, : Carl Vandenberghe, Garden Architect .

Os verdadeiros anjos 
não destroem o homem mal, sim o mal no homem.

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Projeto Comunidade Filosófica


The ocean clean up -19-year-old Boyan Slat shows how the sea itself helps us clean it up from plastic trash. - This is worth attention! - All governments of the world should look into it seriously and collaborate with this project:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROW9F-c0kIQ




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Synopsis  "Garden Angel" A Naturestudio film project

To be in nature asks for a silent mind, open to what is. In this peaceful state of mind, the secret beauty of nature and our existence reveals itself. From a drop of water on a flower petal in a garden in Gent, Europe, to a wild river in a tropical rain forest of Brazil, the beauty, unity, harmony and creative mystery is the same.

Myriam Vandenberghe is a Flemish artist. Her garden is famous among those who have had the chance to see it.  from a small backyard where filth and trash was  dumped, our Garden angel has created a garden of endless enchantment.
More than to tell a story, the images of this film convey that spirit of wonder, which every one of us had as a child, and which wisdom teaches us never to lose.
This project shows how beauty is indeed in the eyes of the beholder, and how, even in a modern civilized world, respect and love for all living beings is a key to regain the innocence and joy of  paradise lost.

Contact van Chapman if you are a interested film  producer.
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— van Chapman (@van_chapman) July 20, 2014

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In this site there are painting of our artists. 
We offer a commission of 30 up to 50% to the European and American help organizations which can sell them for us through their websites.

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How listening to Mozart helps premature babies put on weight:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1241788/Listening-Mozart-help-premature-babies-gain-weight.html
Let no belief hijack your mind or the truth of your heart!
http://www.naturestudio.net/love_or_islam.html#love or islam
If you are in a desert, it is great to find water and turn it into an oasis. But if instead you rather fast for days in the desert and are satisfied with a mirage or vision, I don't care which, to make a work of art and beauty, out of it is also fine; but rather not kitsch, and certainly not a terrorist state!
Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm


http://www.naturestudio.net/love_or_belief.html

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For a peaceful intelligent solution of Terrorism




"Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins",
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm


If you still did not see it this might interest you:
Truth of Islam- Three Stages of Jihad - MUST WATCH!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX6cJueu9tw
and EX-MUSLIM addresses  Obama
click to see video: To me this is true sincerity, so rare in his kind!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxzOVSMUrGM











  Holy war? -Combat falsehood, not those who are false !
That is what saviours do, true fathers & mothers of mankind!

Rather than (Koran) :'kill unbelievers wherever you find them' ,
kill falsehood , wherever you find it - even in your holy books!

I ask Obama how can he reconcile civil freedom and human rights with its antithesis, the Islam ?
Will he say- 'Yes we can?'
No. Only fearless and total sincerity can solve this impasse. By turning a 'politically correct' blind eye to Islam, Obama cannot solve the ISIS problem at its root, in the consciousness.
Only pass the problem on to another...

Whether it is the Islamic State or the United States, the problem with anyone, any state, starts when they  forsake and prohibit self-critic honesty. ( turning an 'Islamic correct' or 'politically correct-blind eye' to their own incoherence). Incoherence with what we know is the way of love and love's Justice, simply out of self interests- that is when a religion becomes terrorism, and a state stops the fair peace process to become a tyrannical invading force! Dear Muslims and dear Mr. President, understand this, for the best of all.




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Naturestudio would encourage the love for the beauty of Nature,
Spiritual self awareness, through Art and Philosophy,
and peaceful solutions for world conflicts.

Naturestudio officially a VZW since 2010,
a non-Governmental, non-profit organization.
A concept of Geraldine Fonseca Chapman (van Chapman)
Co founder: Myriam Vandenberghe an  artist, and a bibliothecarian. .
New:collaborator, : Carl Vandenberghe, Garden Architect .
To the United Nations Human Rights Organization :
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For further meditations on this,
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This message was translated in many languages and given to the Parliament and Council of Europe, Strasbourg, in 1999:
http://www.naturestudio.net/light_for_peace_by_van-chapman.html





14 Oct. 2014
To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunked
in a mud pool at the horizon.

The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.

And some of their "Words of God"
did not consider God a father
because they ruled not with uplifting,
enlightening love,
but wih a damning iron heart,
which killed the ignorant,
and not the ignorance!

Surelly God's Word need urgent updating…

One cannot force love or clarity by violence,
by violent beliefs!
it comes of its own
through awareness; not desire.
This understanding is shared
between true people of peace, like Gandhi.
Should they who thirst and hunger for justice;
the peace makers, be forced by Allah
to convert to Islam and its cold blooded killings
and bloody jihad?
I do not think so.
-Philosophic Community Project-
True angels destroy not men,but the falseness in them.
For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism.

http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html


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A GOOD ARGUMENT TO PASS WORLDWIDE THE LAW PROHIBITING THE SLAUGHTER OF ANIMALS WITHOUT SEDATION.

    It is not that a predator animal can create a hell out of the life of its pray that we are justified in doing the same as animal predators.

van Chapman
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  A vegetarian meditation about the Islam


According to a documentary on TV about Mecca, in memory of Abraham, one is asked to kill, or have a sheep killed for them, one sheep per person or seven persons or family in Mecca, as part of a religious ritual duty.

What if you are a vegetarian? There is no real need to kill to eat if you are a vegetarian.
(Maybe in the time of Abraham it was not possible to live as a vegetarian, there was only desert, grass and sheep, like in deserts, in some parts of  Africa and Afghanistan today...) But if  the Islam obliges men to do that, even today, the Islam is a religion whose “Most merciful” God Allah encourages, if not obliges people to be a carnivore.

( Surah 3:85 'If anyone desires a religion other than Islam (submission to Allah), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter He will be in the ranks of those who have lost all spiritual good.')
If you think that not SPIRITUAL SELF AWARENESS, OR FAITH IN LOVE, but the  ISLAM of Mohammed  is the only acceptable religion for the whole of humanity, then, if ALLAH tells you to kill, even if it makes no sense, as a Muslim you must obey. You are forced to live as a carnivore, even if you can liveas a vegetarian; and this is absurd.
And the picture becomes horrible indeed if anywhere in the Koran it is written that the faithful to Allah must kill the unbeliever, unfaithful to Mohammed’s Allah:
Quran (2:191-193) - "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah." what is also absurd; and a crime according to Human Rights and the European and Western World Laws. For refusing to murder a sheep for a ritual in Mecca, being as a harmless vegetarian Buddhist or Hindu, for example,
or refusing the crime to kill any human being for a difference of belief, one could be considered an unbeliever, and risk to be murdered by followers of Mohammed as the Taliban.  THIS FAITH IS in contradiction with ‘LOVE YOUR ENEMIES’ of  JESUS;
This faith Quran (2:191-193)would lead indeed to a hell of hate rather than to a heaven of love.




AND HERE IS WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TO ABRAHAM AND HIS FOLLOWERS:

IN FACT A SPIRIT WHO WOULD ASK YOU UNQUESTIONING OBEDIENCE EVEN IN A CRIME
TO KILL AN INNOCENT CHILD AS A PROOF OF OBEDIENCE (FROM THE LEGEND OF ABRAHAM),  OR FORCE YOU TO KILL A SHEEP WHEN YOU CAN BE A VEGETARIAN (SAME LEGEND OF ABRAHAM), CANNOT BE 'THE MOST MERCIFUL', 'THE MOST WISE' AS ONE SAYS GOD TO BE,  BUT INSTEAD IT CAN BE THE SOURCE OF ALL INCONSIDERATION,  SUBSERVIENCE, FANATISM OR PROUD TYRANNY.

History:
"In 1892, the Swiss Animal Protection Association launched a popular initiative against shechita. Although the Federal Council and the Federal Assembly moved to reject this initiative, it was accepted on 20th August 1893.
The Federal Constitution was then amended as follows by Article 25bis: ‘The slaughter of animals without prior stunning before the withdrawal of blood is prohibited without exception for every type of slaughter and every species of animal.’ "
Quote from http://www.swissjews.ch/en/religioeses/koscherfleisch/schaechtverbot.php)
According to http://www.therefinersfire.org/mecca.htm
   ‘Most Muslims never heard about the person of the Holy Spirit’.

The Holy Spirit, to me, is the spirit of love,
where one finds oneself, and without which or who, one loses oneself.

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see a dialogue  LOVE OR BELIEF





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14 Oct. 2014
Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?


14 Oct. 2014



Pride of power is an evil illusion.
To have a deadly weapon does not make you just or true.

The truth is that anyone with a deadly weapon can do that:
hijack  you, even in name of God:
Create a belief and tell you that if you do not believe, he will kill you,
send you to hell.
And to do this is evil.

What has violating, raping, hijacking, enslaving, to do with love?

As J. Krishnamurti understood, violence and fear destroy love.

Even if one violates you, enslaves you through force,
one will not win your heart,
or force you to imitate his violence,
unless you become  heartless yourself.

Your spirit is free. No one can violate your consciousness
unless you allow fear to dominate it.

Love and clarity cannot be won through threat and fear,
through a violent belief.

One cannot  force love or clarity to come by violence, by a violent belief!

This is the understanding of true people of peace, like Gandhi.
Should they be forced by Allah to convert to Islam
and its cold blooded killing and bloody jihad?
I do not think so.




Humans should do better, not worse than beasts.

In the wild, animals would probably be killed by disease or violent predators. All I could ask is for a happy life, and a peaceful death, like going to sleep.

After our death, who would not give away any organ if it could save someone's life? So this is my request: Those who raise animals must give them a happy life and peaceful death. If someone sacrifices an animal, it must be like putting the animal to sleep without fear or pain. Not as in those so called holy cold-blooded murder of sheep without sedation. I have stopped eating meat from them, and I tell them why, so they consider well what they call holy traditions.

Personally, like my friend vegetarians, I have no need and no heart to kill a bull, a cow, a warm blooded animal to eat. But if on the other hand, if I think of a good barbeque ... what a waste for it all to rotten away and pollute the air every time a cow or bull would die...
Humans should do better, not worse than beasts. I respect and ask respect for someone who denies eating animals out of love for them. I recognize this angelic aspect is superiour to simple human philosophy like mine. But whatever you do, do not do to another what you would not have done unto you...
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What does self defense has to do with philosophy, wisdom or truth?


APOLOGETICS OFTEN SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS OF THEIR OPPONENTS.
BUT THEY AVOID TO SEE OR CONFESS THEIR OWN...
And to this they call self defence.
14 Oct. 2014
To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunked
in a mud pool at the horizon.

The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.

And some of their "Words of God"
did not consider God a father
because they ruled not with uplifting,
enlightening love,
but wih a damning iron heart,
which killed the ignorant,
and not the ignorance!

Surely God's Word need urgent updating…
"Voice of eternal love music project".

True angels
destroy not men,
but the falseness in them.















proposition: the creation of an channel of uninterrupted transmission of the highest artistic level which bring to all people
the expression of the most noble sentiments of the human consciousness and soul.


-In this project we would like to find a musical heaven, an expression of a great soul and spiritual consciousness.
Love is higher than the conflicting ideas of God in this world.

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Here a film composer who normally makes every kind of popular style music,
and suddenly creates this:!
Here a fragment :

Luminescence (Hamisa Dor / Vladimir Cosma)

Luminescence (Hamisa Dor / Vladimir Cosma)
Lisa Lévy (soprano) et Jacqueline Mayeur (mezzo-soprano)
Orchestre symphonique Bel'Arte (responsable Richard Boudharam)
*London Symphony Orchestra dirigé par Vladimir Cosma

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About us: We are running a non profit society called Naturestudio.
On our sites you can see my efforts (van Chapman ) to peacefully solve some conflicts in the world as religious or theocratic terrorism, through promoting self awareness. intelligence and not war.




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What has self defence to do with philosophy, wisdom or truth?


BELIEF APOLOGETICS
OFTEN SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS OF THEIR OPPONENTS.
BUT AVOID TO SEE OR CONFESS THOSE OF THEIR OWN...
And to this they call self defence.

One
is love
Beliefs are many

New page :  Update your God

14 Oct. 2014
To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunked
in a mud pool at the horizon.

The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.

And some of their "Words of God"
told to kill unbelieves!

Surely God's Word needs urgent updating…



If you are in a desert, it is great to find water and turn it into an oasis. But if instead you rather fast for days in the desert and are satisfied with a mirage or vision, I don't care which, to make a work of art and beauty, out of it is also fine; but rather not kitsch, and certainly not a terrorist state! 
Brazilian Rain Forest Photos by
van Chapman   Click here to see more


One
is love
Beliefs are many,
love is
One

Update your God
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"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

One
is love
Beliefs are many
love is
One



Beliefs are many, love is One.
Terrorist unquestionable regimes
or beliefs, are those which
condemning killing, force you to kill,
condemning robbing, force you to rob,
and condemning lying, force you to lie,
for the sake of authority,
forsaking love, denying truth.
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To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunk
in a mud pool at the horizon.
The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.
And some of their "Words of God"
persecuted  unbelievers.
Surely God's Word needs urgent updating…
*
Is it loyalty or ego to turn a blind eye
to one's own shortcomings?

How can one defend the truth
with double standards, or double faces?

Self defence may have  to do with a unquestioning belief,
but what has that to do with wisdom or truth?

Apologetics often see each other's contradictions,
avoiding to see their own.
*
Truth has nothing to do with male or female leadership
but with self-awareness.
By chance, does one have to have a beard,
to say the truth?

So, ironically, could it be, that exactly the unconditioned,
and un -prejudiced  "unbelievers",  can see love,  can see the truth ?

"How can a mind full of beliefs be clear ?"
Asked once  J.Krishnamurti.

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Rather than: kill unbelievers wherever you find them,
kill falsehood, wherever you find- even in your holy books!
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"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha




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Update your (understanding of) God.
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Update your (understanding of) God.
Beliefs are many,
love is
One



"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha



One
is love
Beliefs are many.
Urgent! Security warning:Update your God !
Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?
http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html
True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them.
Update your (understanding of) God.
Beliefs are many,
love is
One


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Should capital punishment be abolished?
Answer:

Love
is One,
Beliefs are many;
Love is
One.

You do not have to curse others.
it is enough to see them just as they are being.

and what they actually are
thinking they are,
saying,
they are.
See what
is,
See what
you are
saying,
thinking you are,
and what you actually are.

It is enough to see yourself just as you are being:
You do not have to curse yourself!

Love is One, beliefs are many.
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Should Capital Punishment be Abolished?

Answer:

Love
is One,
Beliefs are many;
Love is
One.


You do not have to curse others.
it is enough to see them justly as they are being.

and what they actually are
thinking they are,
saying,
they are.
See what
is,
See what
you are
saying,
thinking you are,
and what you actually are.

It is enough to see yourself justly as you are being:
You do not have to curse yourself!

Love is One, beliefs are many.
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DearMuslim, maybe you will like this.
Bird loves Egyptian music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f07L-WJ17Zo
Não se assuste.
Quando eu disse que abriria todas as gaiolas,
não disse que forçaria os prisioneiros a saír.

Gaiolas podem ser temporárias clínicas,  não destinos eternos.

Clique para ler mais5 March 13:34
O que é este Projeto Filosofico: Espero responder às suas perguntas: -Aqueles que conheceram a maravilha e pureza dos rios e consciência nas proximidades das fontes e vêem o quanto estas se tornam poluidas, fétidas, á proporção que penetram as barulhentas, violentas e orgulhosas favelas ou cidades dos homens, aqueles que viram isto não param de perguntar a si mesmos e aos homens: -Porque? Como remediar este mal? Como evitar que isto aconteça e destrua a beleza da vida e do nosso planeta? E não pararão de fazer tais perguntas apesar daqueles que resentem como coisas insuportáveis a sua consciência, seu questionamento, e se voltam contra, ofendidíssimos, ("Quem manda aqui é nós que é Brasileiro"), dizem êles. a ponto de nos querer calar a voz, bater, quebrar ou matar: Porque? Porque querem possuir e mandar na terra e nos outros, sem razão. Com orgulho, não sabedoria. Porque se deleitam em prazeres barulhentos, brutos, desrespeituosos, vaidosos, violentos, como o tom da música dêles, e o som de seus canos de descarga quebrados de propósito, que impõem sem perguntar se incomodam; e exigen que se escute, que se sufoque, sem reclamar. Sem ver nem se importar nem cuidar da beleza da natureza, da beleza do amor e do ser verdadeiro em sua pureza original. Como se pode possuir a beleza da terra, da verdade, poluindo-a, violando-a? van Chapman



Letter to president Obama


9 October 2014
Dear president Obama,
My sympathy for your gracious leadership and tremendous effort to keep up with so many issues to be resolved in this world.

I sincerely hope to help you understand the question of ISIS from a spiritual, non-religious perspective.

Let me confirming what Brother Rashid said to you :
in "A Message to President Obama from a former Muslim"
( https://plus.google.com/100481145869768252885/videos ).


Understanding the real nature of the problem of ISIS is crucial for solving it.
A call to self- awareness to Jihadists is needed, as well as to the awareness
that a fanatic, unquestioning belief, is not conducive to love and sincerity.

Love and sincere self-awareness alone could liberate us from religious
or other form of tyranny.

Best wishes for all.

Philosophic Community Project -

van Chapman

For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism.
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Here are some related tweets and other Facebook posts:

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Rather than kill unbelievers wherever you find them,
kill falsehood wherever you find
-even in your holy books!

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Jihad unveiled: lying and murder may defend beliefs, not truth.
It only reveals how false, murderous are their beliefs! 

A terrorist mind has been hijacked by a belief.
Ask a jihadist what he prefers: -Questions, or bombs?
If you question (the belief) you will be sentenced to death and hell.
If someone questions it, (the belief) kill him and send him to hell.

Holy war?  End hypocrisy, and the hypocrite is no more!
End stupidity, and the stupid one ceases to be."

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J. Krishnamurti, a wise man, once said:
"How can a mind full of beliefs be clear?"

There have been wise men throughout history,
like him Lao Tzu, Buddha,
who warned against indiscriminate,
unquestioning following, even of themselves.

If we, humans, descend from the apes,
or if our ancestors were barbarians,
(even if at the time, they were less barbarians than most,)
should we venerate them, today and imitate their behaviour,
even in their slaughter?

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Let me be honest with you,
because a Muslim who is trying to seduce you
to his "religion of Peace" will probably not
or no one would be seduced!:

In a Islamic State, you are a Muslim
if you are born of Muslim parents.
You may not have chosen the Islam,
but the punishment for leaving Islam,
(in some Islamic  States), is the death sentence!
- Sahih Muslim, 16:4152
The Koran contradicts itself in this,
saying there is no compulsion in religion.

So what is true?

If diametrically opposite commands
like these can co-exist,
in their Koran or other Islamic teachings,
there is cause for bloody conflict
in the teachings themselves.
Muslims  are divided in this issue. Is this their fault?
No. But they may not blame the religion.
That is also called apostasy in Islam.

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From what I read, this is exactly what is happening
since the death of Mohammed.
between for example Shiite and Sunni Muslims.
Because of this terror religious doctrine,
that sanctions killing
in name of God, Muslims are killing each other,
over almost any difference of belief!
According to critics of Mohammed, as Moses before him,
he has even  killed for a criticism!
And that is not intelligent, is it?

Such is the belief of the Muslims.
But not as they see it,
if they may not be critical of the Islam.

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Phobia means fear. irrational fear - 
I neither fear or hate Muslims.
Muslims learn to fear Islam, submit to it: believe or die!
They are Islamophobes, Islam fearing, not I.

For me, God is love. Islam not.
Love is stronger.

I would not kill someone for their belief,
as ISIS in a Jihad does.

Instead, I would try to reason with Mohammed and his God:
-What if I said:
"-You are free to love me or not"?
That would be loving, fair, not?
But if I said: "-Love me or I will kill you",
or:"-If you leave me I will kill you,"
what for a person would I be?
A beast?
What has possessiveness to do with wisdom and love?
What does this have to do with the Most Graceful?

1- "There is no compulsion in religion."
2- "No other religion other than Islam will be allowed."
3 -"The punishment for leaving Islam is the death penalty."


I am free to see what I see.
(I see this basic contradiction with love in Islam.).

If I must believe it makes sense when it does not,
and I will be killed, the fundamentals of Islam violate
a fundamental right of consciousness :
to see for itself!


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(Quote)"a few minutes ago, a minority in the United States Senate decided it wasn't worth it. They blocked common-sense gun reforms even while these families looked on from the Senate gallery.
By now, it's well known that 90 percent of the American people support universal background checks that make it harder for a dangerous person to buy a gun. We're talking about convicted felons, people convicted of domestic violence, people with a severe mental illness. Ninety percent of Americans support that idea. Most Americans think that's already the law.
And a few minutes ago, 90 percent of Democrats in the Senate just voted for that idea. But it's not going to happen because 90 percent of Republicans in the Senate just voted against that idea. " (end quote).


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What to do to change the weapon possession race in the US as in the rest of the World?

The answer is simple ’Do not do to others what you would not like to be done to yourself.’

As by American Foreign Policy the right to (Nuclear) arms possession is to be strictly forbidden to terrorists, and limited to countries or individuals who fully comply with human rights, so should the same as a law apply within the US for the arms possession of each member State or individual citizen.

Arm the just and fair, unarm the unjust and unfair, so one may not need to resort to deadly weapons, for
true angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them.


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No politician’s bla bla bla ! All arguments here come from Islam's history therefore it is an appeal to consciousness, that we question ourselves and beliefs...not a proof of anything, except that the horrors people have done and continue to do in name of belief creates hell, not paradise!



( Quotes from  http://www.fatwaonislam.com/  )
''The prophet of Islam raped, terrorized, and murdered his way to the first Caliphate in Islamic history. It's all very clear from Islam's "holy" books that the latest Muslim nation is nearly identical to the first.
• Forced conversions, extortion, and terror in the new Islamic State
"If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya [infidel protection tax]. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them." -Muhammad
• Little kids murdered in Iraq by the Islamic State
"Messenger of Allah, we kill children of polytheists during night raids. He said: They are from them"
• Islamic State mercilessly slaughters "apostates"
"Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him."-Muhammad
• Genocide inside the Islamic State
"Kill any Jew who falls into your power." -Muhammad
• Islamic State turns captured infidels into sex slaves
"We have made lawful to you your wives to whom you have given their due compensation and those [captives] your right hand possesses" -Muhammad
• Not one Christian left in Mosul
"I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave any but Muslim." -Muhammad
The Islamic State is a bloody nightmare today, just as it was 1400 years ago.
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The essence of the petitions I created on Change.org (also for a month on the site of the White House) is perhaps too broad, and deep, and seemingly too simple for most people who are practical minded.
It contains an indispensable insight, which could solve, without violence, the greatest problem we face today in the world: how to deal with the unsolvable conflicts created by terrorist ideologies and their fanatic, unquestioning adepts.
Please visit this page on my website and you will understand what is my proposition of what needs to be done, and taken as an indispensable part of every human relationship, as well as of the international relationships- in the national education, the legal system, the law, and even in the national security of every country of the world.
Its success is a long term one in the world community terms, but it can be instantaneous, in regards to any individual. It is abstract, and to the point at the same time. It represents a great leap for any individual and for humanity, more than for men to have walked on the moon. It represents a step in evolution, from relationships based on power and submission to power and never ending rivalry, competition and wars to a true communion in clear mutual understanding and collaboration.
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To condemn one needs proof, not beliefs! If one understood this, one would not be a terrorist!


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"Nao acredite em nada, não importa onde o tenhas lido ou quem o disse, mesmo se fui eu quem o disse, a menos que esteja de acordo com suas próprias conclusões e seu próprio senso comum." - Budha

Ao condenar, o justo precisa de provas, não crenças.
Até hoje, o sem o anjo do amor e justiça, que proíbe a violência por preconceito, ou mera crença, o Monotheismo de Abraão, vem se dividindo, em incontáveis, inquestionáveis rivalidades dogmáticas que se excomunicam mútuamente (como as versões violentas do Judaismo, Cristianismo, e o Islãmismo),  vem se auto-destruindo, pela falta de consciência,  pela cega obediência á autoridade dita religiosa, mesmo quando esta é sem sentido, mesmo no crime, mesmo quando esta incita aos próprios crimes que condena, colhe em dobro o que semeou- a querra aparentemente sem fim, do terrorismo religioso; que acima de tudo teme, sem razão, às perguntas sinceras,  à auto crítica,  o auto-conhecimento, à luz do anjo da razão do próprio amor.
Ao condenar, o justo precisa de provas, não crenças.
Não destrua o homem falso, mas a falsidade nêle.

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To condemn another one needs proof, not belief!
To condemn anyone for a belief is to commit injustice!
Justice is to destroy falseness, not the false!

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Inquisition of the Church, or the violent jihad in the name of Islam).






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"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

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Beliefs are many,
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For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism.
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Beliefs are many

http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html
Urgent! Security warning:Update your God !
Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?
Update your (understanding of) God.

Beliefs are many,
love is
One

For a peaceful, intelligent solution of terrorism

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Terrorist unquestionable regimes or beliefs are those
which condemning killing, force you to kill,
condemning robbing, force you to rob,
and condemning lying, force you to lie,
for the sake of authority,
forsaking love, denying truth.



****

To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunk
in a mud pool at the horizon.
The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.
And some of their "Words of God"
persecuted  unbelievers.
Surely God's Word needs urgent updating…

***

Is  it loyalty or ego to turn a blind eye
to one's own shortcomings?
How can one defend the truth
with double standards, or double faces?
Self defence may have  to do with a unquestioning belief,
but what has that to do with wisdom or truth?

Apologetics soften see each other's contradictions,
avoiding to see their own.

***
Truth has nothing to do with male or female leadership
but with self-awareness.
By chance, does one have to have a beard to say the truth?

So, ironically, could it be, that exactly the unconditioned,
and un -prejudiced  "unbelievers",
are just the ones who can see love, who can see the truth ?

"How can a mind full of beliefs be clear ?"
Asked once  J.Krishnamurti.


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Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?
True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them.
Update your (understanding of) God.
Beliefs are many,
love is
One




"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha




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Não se assuste.
Quando eu disse que abriria todas as gaiolas,
não disse que forçaria os prisioneiros a saír delas.

Explicando á uma petição (em Inglês) à administração do Presidente Obama, através do próprio site da Casa Branca,  pedindo a todos os líderes e juizes do mundo que se unam contra a violência em nome de uma crença.

A razão não poderia ser mais simples e clara:
Para condenar alguem, alguma coisa, o justo, a justiça precisa provas, não crenças!

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Thanks sign-re-pass!

If you enlighten ignorance, the ignorant is no more!
Or would you rather perpetuate violence?

What does Facebook consider to be hate speech?
If you publish quotes from the Koran on Facebook,
for educational purposes, who will Facebook Policy accuse
of discriminating hate speech: - this person, or the Koran ?
Bukhari 52:260 :"If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him." (Google it).
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With  inspiration derived from direct contact with unspoiled nature, in photos by Myriam Vandenberghe, or photos,  films and and writings by van Chapman,  we continue creating new  series of Naturestudio Timeline Photos, and sending them through the World Wide Web, to promote the beauty of nature, of love, truth  and justice. - Through its Philosophic Community Project, in particular, van Chapman proposes an intelligent, peaceful prevention of terrorism and world conflict, through dialogue, reason,  (rather than justification of injustice and war).

"The challenge and solution for the conflict of beliefs in this world, is to place justice and truth above anyone, not vice versa."
We like to promote a way of relationship free of hypocrisy, based on fearless sincerity in a friendship, clarity and mutual understanding, rather than a way based on 'unquestioning' authorities, (such as the beliefs on prophets, gurus, masters, dictators, or mafia bosses , (relation in which one must silence the truth, if not flattering to each other's beliefs). 

Naturestudio has sent this message around the world, to reporters, radio, or TV senders as BBC and CNN, to the United Nations Security Counsil, to members of the Parliament and Counsil of Europe, to organizations as Climate Change (Al Gore), or party leaders as Geert Wilders (Nederlands), to members of  the FBI, and anti terrorism organizations,  heads of countries as president Obama in the US,  François Hollande (France), Angela Merkel (Germany), Elio Di Rupo and Louis Michel (Belgium), Dilma Rousseff (Brasil), and David Cameron, (prime minister of the UK), to mention some people.

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Naturestudio has tried to transmit a vision for a more reasonable, united and peaceful world, chalenging believers of all creeds to reason and seek the truth , rather than to make war to each other based on prejudices and beliefs.

As before, Naturestudio has not earned but spent our private material resources with the help of Myriam and Carl Vandenberghe, to realize Naturestudio's projects.


Present, the founders:  Geraldine Fonseca Chapman, (artist name: van Chapman), founder and  president,

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This message was translated in many languages and given to the Parliament and Council of Europe, Strasbourg, in 1999:
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Commentary on Obama's last State of the Union speech:
- Proud of him! Obama is the most open president of the US I heard ever!. Even when saying one may not offend a Muslim (just for being a Muslim). Whatever we think truth is, is not going to change what truth is. We are what we are regardless of what we think (believe) we are, or another may think...
But more understanding is needed here, and sometimes, even Obama is not really honest about it - what Islam is, in itself, as an ideology.

Honest dialogue to find out together what makes sense, or not, about a belief, is better than to promote a tyrannical and unquestionable person, or belief, which only allows justification of itself, silencing all criticism, imposing itself through power and violence, rather than reason.

(The illusion of power is to think he who is pointing the weapon is the one who is right!)

Muslims may be offended and violent to the point of murder, if you just reason with or criticize their prophet, or the Koran (as the traditional history says their prophet himself has done :see link below).

In general; no one is allowed to criticize this belief, and its set of rules, or sharia, however unreasonable these rules may be, or they are discriminated, punished, or even killed, because their prophet, at a later stage in his life, demanded Muslims (in name of God) to discriminate against all who are non-believers of his belief!
(Muslims do not like to be discriminated for their belief, their prophet's belief, yet, their prophet's Koran teaches them to discriminate others for their beliefs !

So in this way the prophet of Islam was wrong and you can see why. Love says: do not do to another what one does not like to be done to.

Islam may accept a man to have a harem of women: history tells the prophet had much more than 5 women, as did old testament illustrious figures, like King Solomon; but if any of these women took another man besides their husband, she was a whore, (not them, if they had many women! ) ! and the punishment for that in those barbaric times, since Moses, was to be stoned to death. Is this justice?

Do not make yourself illusions about these contradictory beliefs in the name of a merciful and wise God! -Reason with your beliefs!

So we must learn to place justice and truth above anyone, not anyone above truth and justice, whatever our religious origin!
van Chapman,
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comment on President Obama Delivers his Final State of the Union Address  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCXSO-3mt5I

This link leads to a page from Faith Freedom International
that has been hidden
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A Call To Muslims of the World
From Faith Freedom International


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Urgent! Security warning:Update your God !
Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?
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Update your (understanding of) God.
Beliefs are many,
love is
One


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"The challenge and solution for the conflict of beliefs in this world, is to place justice and truth above anyone, not vice versa."
We like to promote a way of relationship free of hypocrisy, based on fearless sincerity in a friendship, clarity and mutual understanding, rather than a way based on 'unquestioning' authorities, (such as the beliefs on prophets, gurus, masters, dictators, or mafia bosses , (relation in which one must silence the truth, if not flattering to each other's beliefs). 

Naturestudio has sent this message around the world, to reporters, radio, or TV senders as BBC and CNN, to the United Nations Security Counsil, to members of the Parliament and Counsil of Europe, to organizations as Climate Change (Al Gore), or party leaders as Geert Wilders (Nederlands), to members of  the FBI, and anti terrorism organizations,  heads of countries as president Obama in the US,  François Hollande (France), Angela Merkel (Germany), Elio Di Rupo and Louis Michel (Belgium), Dilma Rousseff (Brasil), and David Cameron, (prime minister of the UK), to mention some people.

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Naturestudio has tried to transmit a vision for a more reasonable, united and peaceful world, chalenging believers of all creeds to reason and seek the truth , rather than to make war to each other based on prejudices and beliefs.

As before, Naturestudio has not earned but spent our private material resources with the help of Myriam and Carl Vandenberghe, to realize Naturestudio's projects.


Present, the founders:  Geraldine Fonseca Chapman, (artist name: van Chapman), founder and  president,

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Carl Vandenberghe, bestuurder,  hulpsecretaris




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Who fears the truth, the humble or the proud?




Who is loyal? A believer or a friend?

The believer, who can only flatter you,
who justifies everything you are saying,
not because it is right but because you said it,
or the friend,
who is free to see you exactly as you are being,
who is free to question you,
if it makes sense or not what you say?


Who is the true friend?
who admits the truth though it hurts the ego,
or who will please the ego
though hurting the truth?


Who is humble?
One who ask sincerity, not perfection,
or one who asks perfection,
which one never can reach, but not sincerity?

Who is proud:
one who would rather flatter
and be flattered, even when  wrong,
or one who would rather what is just,
what is true, even if not flattering?


Are believers of any belief system
able to be coherent in a dialogue? 
Whether they were simple devotees,
or believers who justified terrorism,
this is not what any of them did,
be coherent, in a dialogue with me.


If I did not trust in the consciousness potential in humans
I would not have even started a dialogue with them.
I would be among those who prejudice those who prejudice,
and I would believe in violence against terrorism, not reason.

But I have faith that making good questions,
appealing to reason, to making sense can help
to create clarity where there is none!

***

Are believers of any belief system able to be coherent? 
To be consequent or to reason? I ask.

This is just how it goes, in practice, when I talk to them:

The conflict of beliefs which is dividing people
for millenniums can be cleared up.

We just have to look into it our beliefs with clarity
and humble sincerity and self criticism
which is hard to find, among believers.

In my experience, this conflict of beliefs
is not real problem to believers.
because if you believe,
it is not clarity what they want.

For example:
A devotee of Yogananda used to say to me that criticism,
even if true, should silenced.
She did not like to prove anyone right or wrong.
But did not mind to 'make believe'
to please someone.
So how can we even start
to clear anything with whom must seem happy
and sweet even when they do not feel it?
With someone who tries to look away
from conflicts?



The problem is not the contradiction
in name of God I show her
because she can pretend it does not exist,
but seeing what is, who is right and wrong,
The problem is clearing it up!

If you say a criticism to a devotee
about their belief, even if true, he or she
might blame you.
for example: that you (quote):
"live on meaningless, deliberately obscure,
Ego- centered nonsense" (end quote).

And  before you can explain and clear it up,
you are blocked out of the discussion.

Similarity, a terrorist believer could even kill you
for saying the truth about his prophet,
or belief, if it was not flattering!

***

Religious wars exist because unreasonable
unquestionable believers, rather make war than reason
with themselves, or their beliefs.
Because they do not to care the least to be coherent
in a dialogue when criticism is not allowed


Believers of many different beliefs I talked to
have this in common with the terrorists:

They argue that it is cruel and a disrespect to criticize
to say something unflattering, of their Guru,
prophet, or belief, even if it is true.
and some extend this to themselves and even their relations.
One may not see, not say what is not flattering to each other
no sincerity, only likes allowed!

****


I am not offering a belief system.
only a  no-nonsense honesty in a dialogue.

My faith is the self evidence
that truth love justice is greater
than untruth, hate, injustice.


A philosopher as a true friend,
does not mind to be confronted:
-If the criticism is right,
he will apologize,
and if he was misunderstood
he will explains himself.
But how can he explain himself,
if the other
the unquestionable authority
falsely accuses him
and wants no more discussion?



With my best wishes to all,
that one day
we no longer feel the need need
to be each other's believers, or followers,
but true, understanding friends !


Your friend in love of truth.

van Chapman,
Philosophic Community Project


My friend, I did not invent that the punishment for leaving Islam is the death penalty. It is the same in the mafia. (Bukhari (52:260) - "...The Prophet (Mohammed) said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " ), The great majority of Muslims cannot even read so they believe whatever they are told.
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From a Buddhist, Christian and related doctrine's point of view which preach that love is more just than hate, all Islam terrorists who kill people, rather than kill evil of hate itself, cannot be expected to go to paradise after life, as they are made to believe by their prophet Mohammed, for the logical reason that, if justice is superior to injustice, (which to me is evident it is), if there is justice up there, in the rule of the cosmos, : - You Reap What You Sow. !-*********************************************** (No wonder terrorist Muslims as true barbarians break Buddhist Christian and invaluable art works wherever they conquer. They certainly do not follow any spiritual light but its contradiction. **********Hate is the false prophet. Love is the true master.
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(If you care to see and not put your head in the sand as most people do, then see for yourself). ***Here below is a letter from cultivated honest persons of Muslim Origins. If Muslims are cultivated, can reason, and have any sense of justice, they must leave Islam; even if they are threatened.
But it takes a lot of sincerity and courage to do that!
A Call To Muslims of the World
(Copied from from Faith Freedom International). click here:
http://naturestudio.net/philosophic_community_project.html


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Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm


http://www.naturestudio.net/love_or_belief.html

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DIALOGUE WITH A MUSLIM
For a peaceful intelligent solution of Terrorism




"Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins",
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm


If you still did not see it this might interest you:
Truth of Islam- Three Stages of Jihad - MUST WATCH!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX6cJueu9tw
and EX-MUSLIM addresses  Obama
click to see video: To me this is true sincerity, so rare in his kind!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxzOVSMUrGM











  Holy war? -Combat falsehood, not those who are false !
That is what saviours do, true fathers & mothers of mankind!

Rather than (Koran) :'kill unbelievers wherever you find them' ,
kill falsehood , wherever you find it - even in your holy books!

I ask Obama how can he reconcile civil freedom and human rights with its antithesis, the Islam ?
Will he say- 'Yes we can?'
No. Only fearless and total sincerity can solve this impasse. By turning a 'politically correct' blind eye to Islam, Obama cannot solve the ISIS problem at its root, in the consciousness.
Only pass the problem on to another...

Whether it is the Islamic State or the United States, the problem with anyone, any state, starts when they  forsake and prohibit self-critic honesty. ( turning an 'Islamic correct' or 'politically correct-blind eye' to their own incoherence). Incoherence with what we know is the way of love and love's Justice, simply out of self interests- that is when a religion becomes terrorism, and a state stops the fair peace process to become a tyrannical invading force! Dear Muslims and dear Mr. President, understand this, for the best of all.




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The latest Tweets from van Chapman (van_chapman). True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them...









Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm



Who fears the truth,
the humble or the proud?

The unquestioning believer is proud
on behalf of his authority.
Do believers fear the truth?
"Terrorists are not afraid of bombs, they are afraid of questions."



Who is loyal? A believer or a friend?
Your believer, who may only flatter you,
justify everything you are saying,
not because it is right
but because you said it,
or the friend,
who is free to see you exactly as you are, being,
who is free to question you,
if it makes no sense what you say or do?


Who is humble?
One who ask sincerity,
not perfection,
or one who asks perfection,
but not sincerity?


Who is the true friend?

The one who admits the truth
even if it hurts the ego,
(his own or another's),
or who will please the ego
though hurting the truth?

It is criucial to see this.



Are believers of any belief system
able to be coherent in a philosophical dialogue
when they do this,
when they would rather flatter and be flattered,
even when they they have been wrong?


I have spoken to fanatics and non fanatics
but whether they were simple devotees,
or justified terrorism,
if it was recomended by a so called Holy book"
the Koran or Bible or another book,
(the potential terrorists)
this is not what they did, be coherent,
in a dialogue with me.




In a dialogue with me, it has always been so
they have askes for belief
but could not be sincere with me, to the end.
In a dialogue with me a philosopher asks for sincerity
not a belief.
A believer asks for belief, but not sincerity.

I have moer faith  in the potential of consciousness
in man than the believers I spoke to.

Some  believed in some authority
which was supposed to be just and good
but instead of giving wisdom
(what he could do, if omnipotent,)
he sent them to eternal hell.
I find this to be a nonsense story to discipline children
but it makes no sense. And I can explain it:

Only a monster of teacher would kill his students,
if they did not pass in an exam in a lifetime,
which is a moment in eternity.
and torture them for the rest of eternity for that,
rather than killing the illusion they are in,
through wisdom, in a dialogue...
like this one, for example.

Update-your-god,
I say to those who believe a fairy tale literally.
who believe the christmas man is not a christmas spirit,
in every one of us, but a real individuo, a male with a beard.
who might even have no Christmas spirit at all!


There is even a page I made with that title.
http://naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html

***************************************************



If I did not trust the potential consciousness
in humans, and even in some animals,
I would not have even started a dialogue with them.


(Today I have to try to teach a dum pigeon not to defecate on the bird bath for all the birds...
What I have done is to leave there just a tyny amount of water, with his droppings in it. So when he is thisty again, he will wonder who was the stupid bird who did that, in his bird bath water...
I have to sacrifice the other birds for awhile, because they too will not be able to use deink water from there...I hope it will work!)





















If would be among those who hate and prejudice
those who prejudice others for their belief,
as Mohammed did in his Koran,
I would believe that the only solution to the conflict of belief
the only war on terror was bloody violence, not reason.


But I see that love is greater than hate.
and out of sincerity and love for mankind,
I seek dialogue with the enemy
and speak to him about truth, love and justice
and place that, above any pretending to be God.























***

This is my faith.
The conflict of beliefs dividing people on earth
for millenniums can be cleared up.

I have faith in a spirit of truth, love, justice.
Sometimes I like to call this the Holy Spirit.

But that has not to do with what the Church
has done or said in name of it, if it made no sense
to my own sincere sense of truth, love, justice.

I have faith in the power of good questions,
to appeal to reason, to what makes sense,
for in myself questions create clarity,
where there is none!

***

Are believers of any belief system able to be coherent,
consequent able to reason with their beliefs? I ask.
In practice, this is just how it goes:





To understand something, we have to look at it.
This is the first thing.



So we have to look into it our beliefs,
into its contradictions, with humility,
abandomn all pretence.
we need humble, sincere, fearless awareness.
for self awareness. Is that posible?
Can you do that?
Can we do that together?




Here is an example,
from my experience in dialoguing with believers:

A devotee of Yogananda used to say to me
that criticism, even if true, should be silenced.

She did not like to prove anyone right or wrong.
she said.
She also did not like to be proved wrong.
Even if she was wrong.

On the other hand, she did not mind to 'make believe'
to fake a love or a smile to please someone.
This is compassion, in her eyes.

So how can we even start
to clear anything with whom
must seem happy and sweet
even when they do not feel it?
who tries to look away from conflicts?
The problem of the contradictions
in name of God  which create the most hopeless,
desperate blood wars
for milleniums, which I try to show her ,
is not even a  problem for her;
because she can pretend it does not exist!!!

If you give criticise a devotees like this,
or their their belief, even if the critic is well founded,
they might blame you as one blamed me: that I, (quote):
"live on meaningless, deliberately obscure,
Ego- centered nonsense" (end quote).


And  before you can explain and clear it up,
you are blocked out of the discussion.

Similarity, a terrorist believer could even kill you
for saying the truth about his prophet,
or belief, if it was not flattering!


In my experience, this conflict of beliefs
is not the real problem to believers.
because it is not clarity they want, but belief!

For believers, the problem is seeing what is,for themselves.

having to prove right from wrong for themselves,
the problem is self awareness;
The problem is clearing it up!
This is putting the head in the sand as a way to self realization!

(PS: I should draw a sticker and put it here telling this!)



***

Why do religious wars exist?

Because one may not question them.

Because believers, like vain people, only listen to compliments!


So unreasonable believers are proud
on behalf of their unquestionable, proud authorities.

Confrontations can be inspiring,
to a philosopher, if you do not fear the truth.
But Believers do not appreciate confrontations,
for it might end up in a fight.

In a confrontation with each other,
unquestionable authorities cannot dialogue with each other.
because they will only listen to compliments!
like vain people!

And they will blame the philosopher,
the unbeliever,
who will solve the mad conflict of beliefs
through intelligence, through a civilized,
sincere, truth loving and just dialogue.

***
¨
In a confrontation, in a disagreement,
two unquestionable authorities, or beliefs
and their followers have no other way than to make war,
for one may not reason with them, or their beliefs.

This is why I said that this sweet devotee of Yoganada
that she did not to care the least to be coherent
in a dialogue with me, and got blocke out,
because criticism is not allowed on her timeline!

***
Believers of many different beliefs I talked to
have this in common with the terrorists:

They argue that it is cruel and a disrespect to criticize
to say something unflattering, of their Guru,
prophet, or belief, even if it is true.
and some extend this to themselves and even their relations.
One may not see, not say what is not flattering to each other
no sincerity, only likes allowed!

****


I am not offering a belief system.
only a  no-nonsense honesty in a dialogue.

My faith is the self evidence
that truth love justice is greater
than untruth, hate, injustice.


A philosopher as a true friend,
does not mind to be confronted:
-If the criticism is right,
he will apologize,
and if he was misunderstood
he will explains himself.

But how can he explain himself,
if the other the unquestionable authority
falsely accuses him and blocks him
and wants no more discussion?

To my friend believers,
with my best wishes to all.
May one day we no longer feel the need 
to be each other's believers, or followers,
but understanding, true friends !



Your friend in love of truth.

van Chapman,
Philosophic Community Project


Who fears the truth,
the humble or the proud?

The unquestioning believer is proud
on behalf of his authority.
Do believers fear the truth?
"Terrorists are not afraid of bombs, they are afraid of questions."

Who is loyal? A believer or a friend?


Your believer, who may only flatter you,
justify everything you are saying,
not because it is right
but because you said it,
or the friend,
who is free to see you exactly as you are, being,
who is free to question you,
if it makes no sense what you say or do?


Who is humble?
One who ask sincerity,
not perfection,
or one who asks perfection,
but not sincerity?


Who is the true friend?

The one who admits the truth
even if it hurts the ego,
(his own or another's),
or who will please the ego
though hurting the truth?

It is criucial to see this.

***
Are believers of any belief system
able to be coherent in a philosophical dialogue
when they would rather flatter and be flattered,
even when they have been wrong?


I have spoken to fanatic and non-fanatic believers,
but whether they were simple devotees,
or justified terrorism recommended by
a so called "Holy book", (the Koran or Bible or another),
(the potential terrorists)
they were not coherent, in a dialogue with me.

In a dialogue with me,
they have asked for loyalty to a belief,
but could not be sincere with me,
to the end in our dialogue.

A true philosopher as a just judge,
asks for sincerity, and truth, not a belief.

A believer as far as my experience,
asks for belief, but will not be sincere.
if you show contradictions in what he believes.


***
I have more faith  in the potential of consciousness
in man than the believers I spoke to.

Some  believed in some authority
which was supposed to be just and good
but instead of giving wisdom
(what he could do, if omnipotent,)
he sent them to eternal hell.
I find this to be a nonsense story to discipline children
but it makes no sense. And I can explain it:

Only a monster of a teacher would kill his students,
if they did not pass in an exam in a lifetime,
(which is only a moment in eternity).
and torture them for that for the rest of eternity.
Be so absurdly cruel, rather than giving them wisdom,
killing the illusion they have, in a dialogue.
as this one, for example!

- Update-your-god,  I say to believer a fairy tale
who believe in christmas man who is a male with a beard.
and who might even not have a true Christmas spirit at all!


Here is even a page I made with that title:

http://naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html
************************************
If I did not trust the potential consciousness
in humans, and even in some animals,
I would not have even started a dialogue with them.

**¨*



















(Today I have to try to teach a dum pigeon not to
defecate on the bird bath for all the birds...
What I have done is to leave there just a tyny amount of water,
with his droppings in it. So when he is thisty again,
he will wonder who was the stupid bird who did that,
in his bird bath water...
I have to sacrifice the other birds for awhile, because
they too will not be able to use deink water from there...
I hope it will work!)


***


If I would be among those who hate and prejudice
those who prejudice others for their belief,
(such as Mohammed did in his Koran),
I would believe that the only solution to the conflict of belief,
the only war on terror, was bloody violence, not reason.


But I see that love is greater than hate.
And out of sincerity and love for mankind,
I seek dialogue even with the enemy,
and speak to him about truth, love and justice,
placing that above anyone pretending to be God!.

This is my faith.










The conflict of beliefs dividing people on earth
for millenniums can be cleared up.

I have faith in a spirit of truth, love, justice.
Sometimes I like to call this the Holy Spirit.
But that spirit has not to do with what the Church
has done or said in name of it, if it made no sense
to my own sincere sense
of truth, love, justice.

I have faith in the power of good questions,
to appeal to reason, to what makes sense.

For in myself, making a good question create clarity,
where there was none!

***

Are believers of any belief system able to be coherent,
consequent, able to reason with their beliefs? I ask.

In practice, this is just how it goes:
To understand something, we have to look at it.
This is the first thing.
So we have to look into it our beliefs,
into its contradictions, with humility- abandon all pretense.
We need humble, sincere, fearless awareness.
for self awareness.

Is that possible?
Can you do that as a believer?
be self aware in relation to what we believe?
To the in-consequences in beliefs, not only those of others, but our own?
Can we do that together  in a dialogue without fighting?
In a civilized, courteous and honest way??

***

Here is an example from my experience in dialoguing
with believers:
A devotee of Yogananda used to say to me
that criticism, even if true, should be silenced.

She did not like to prove anyone right or wrong.
she said.
She also did not like to be proved wrong.
Even if she was wrong.

On the other hand, she did not mind to 'make believe'
to fake a love or a smile to please someone.
She even advise me I try to do this.

This is compassion, in her eyes.

So, how can we even start to clear any conflict
with whom must seem happy and sweet
even when they do not feel it
and who tries to look away from conflicts
or silence defects ?
The problem of the contradictions
in name of God , for example,
create the most hopeless, desperate blood wars
for milleniums, which I try to show her, talk about it to her,
is not even a  problem for her; because
she can even pretend it does not exist!!!

If you criticize devotees like these,
their belief, even if the critic is well founded,
they might blame you as one has blamed me:
that I, who tries to reason, when they do not, (quote):
"live on meaningless, deliberately obscure,
Ego- centered nonsense" (end quote).

Surely this hurts a sense of Justice.

And  before you can explain and clear it up,
you are blocked, and  out of the discussion.on Facebook!

Similarity, a terrorist believer could even kill you
for saying the truth about his prophet, or belief, if it was not flattering!

In my experience, this conflict of beliefs
is not the real problem to believers.
because it is not clarity they want, but belief!

For believers, the problem is seeing what is, for themselves.
because in a belief system you do not have to see but obey.


You do not have to prove or see right from wrong for themselves,
Someone else says it for you and you just have to repeat this
that mantra, like a parrot.

For believers, like this the problem is self awareness of belief.
The conflict they live in is not.  The problem is clearing it up!

This, for me, is putting the head in the sand
and thinking it is a way to self realization!

(PS: I should draw a sticker and put it here telling this!)



***

Why do religious wars exist?
Obviously it is because one may  question them.
Because believers like these,
like vain people, only listen to compliments.
about those in whom they believe!
But this is not love for the true self.

Unreasonable believers are proud on behalf
of their unquestionable authorities.
And they will rage at you,
when you show something unflattering in them
even if this is true.
This is the cage they are in. and want to drag you in to.

Jiddu Krishnamurti understood this before I was even born.
and I remain grateful there is  intelligence like his, in this world!

***
Confrontations can be inspiring, to a philosopher,
if you do not fear the truth.

Unquestioning believers do not appreciate intelligent confrontations,
for the word for them is submission.
And in their turn, they become the tyrant to others.

Unquestionable authorities cannot dialogue with each other.
if they, like vain people, only listen to compliments !


unquestionable authorities, or beliefs
and their followers have  no other way than to make war,
if one may not reason with them.

And they could blame the philosophers, the unbelievers
who can solve this conflict of beliefs
through intelligence alone, ,not authority,
through a civilized,  sincere,  truth loving dialogue.
***

Believers , terrorists or not,have this in common:
it is disrespect to criticize to say something unflattering, of their Guru,
prophet, or belief, even if it is true.

****
I am not offering a belief system.
only a  no-nonsense honesty in a dialogue.


My faith is the self evidence that truth love justice is greater
than untruth, hate, injustice.


A philosopher as a true friend,
does not mind to be confronted:
-If the criticism is right, he will apologize,
and if he was misunderstood
he will explains himself.
But how can he explain himself,
if the other falsely accuses him and blocks him,
and wants no more discussion?

To my friend believers,
with my best wishes to all.

May one day we no longer feel the need to be
each other's believers, or followers,
but mutually understanding,
true friends !



Your friend in love of truth.

van Chapman,
Philosophic Community Project
One
is love
Beliefs are many
http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html
Urgent! Security warning:Update your God !
Was the Inquisition right, is Jihad ever right?
Update your (understanding of) God.
Beliefs are many,
love is
One


"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

A new year's resolution for the world: Be free of unquestionable authorities!


(From a dialogue with a Muslim) 31/12/2015

Dear Ercy,
hope you are well with your new profession as a lawyer.

Would like to ask you a question for our dialogue on the web:

-I wonder if you are happy with the ISIS Islamic Sharia laws: Is that as you imagined it would be when you made propaganda of the return of the Caliphate?

Remember we discussed about this odd Holy Spirit theory you had, that it was Mohammed, and I told you you were totally wrong? Look at this video... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj2wCrGw1EY -=



(Commentary on Youtube video:

'Man On A Mission' writes about Muhammad:

-a FRAUD, a paedophile, a mass murderer, a terrorist, a misogynist, a cult leader, a megalomaniac, a rapist, a torturer, an assassin a looter and a slave trader. He beheaded 800 men and boys in one day. Married and had sex with a child, tortured and killed
people for financial gain. And lied and deceived and divided a nation; and caused the indirect death of millions of people.


(van Chapman) writes back to +Man On A Mission :--and continues to do so 'till this day by the empty heads of those who follow his example literally. That is why one has to be free of all authority before one can begin to have any clarity of mind and heart! Suggested reading of a man who freed himself in this way: Jiddu Krishnamurti? (google him!).

http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html
We are not our beliefs.
We can believe the earth is flat, 
until we are shown it is a sphere.
We are still the same humans, only the belief changed...

***
















Nothing is hidden to the spirit  posted on Facebook


Nothing is hidden to the spirit,

or should be hidden between us if we are true friends.

How can you call a relationship spiritual,

if you try to fake or hide anything true from your friend?

To hide the truth if not flattering, may be social hypocrisy,

but it is neither the way of a spiritual path or that of a spiritual relationship.

Is that so difficult to understand?

For me, you can say mantras the whole day,

do active or passive meditations every day, kiss the feet of your guru,

but If you are not willing to be really honest in a relationship with a friend,

you are not in the path of true love that leads to your ‘essence’.

Then you are only flattering the ego and keeping appearances.

Not so?

Truth is creative, never boring to me.

But turning round the point like this,

is extremely boring to me.

To avoid an essential issue indefinitely…and just generalize,

like saying we all make faults, does not not really to clear anything,

or start anything anew between us.

That would be just to to go back to the boring evasion of reason

or accountability that causes unclarity and clashes to start with.

Of courseI also made faults, many writing faults,

but I corrected them or apologized for them-

and I asked you to tell me if what I said was not true,

and I would apologize.

Dear devotees, I do not mind you challenge me. Questions can inspire me!

but you do mind when you are challenged!

You rather break with the one who sees an injustice

an incoherence in you and your guru, than humbly admit it.

You do not want clarity, but rather a double standard

to silence the truth if not flattering, than to be straight.

You rather be emotional, angry, against one who is honest;

and accuse of hurting your feelings who searches for truth...!

This is basically what we do not agree with:

I do not mind you show me a fault, but you do.

I mind if you are untrue.

You mind if I am true!

if not flattering to you or your belief.

What kind of relationship do you want from me?

A lovey dovi one even if you must fake it?

If a spiritual path includes hiding the truth,

if not flattering, includes resenting detectives in your way,

it is not spiritual at all.

van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects

https://www.facebook.com/naturestudio.net/photos



************************************
How can there be love,
when we must be false, to justify a belief?

So long one clings to an unquestionable authority,
so long one believes in the perfection of someone
as a tyrant,
who prohibits critical awareness of itself,
whose words contradict each other and one's heart,
one is not and cannot be really true to oneself
or another, in any relationship.
.
One can say that different doctors have different methods,
but what is the value of doctor who will kill you if you leave him?
love and compassion (as in Buddha here) is clearly superior spiritually
to arrogant tyranny (as in the prophet of Islam
here: Bukhari (52:260) - The Prophet (Mohammed) said,
"If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him".

Most believers of any religion I had the opportunity to speak with,
had no problem in preaching to me, about their belief,
but had real problem in a relationship of mutual listening and understanding was not what they could go into.

Most of them, whether they were Catholics, Muslims, or followers of a Guru, they did not mind silly chatting, but were not interested in a deep, clear, consequent, honest inquiry for truth, as in a philosophic dialogue, once they had to question themselves or their belief's authorities.

The relationship they had, based on a particular authority,
or guru, made it impossible to them to be truly honest in a relationship with people, with me.
When sincerity was all I asked for, from a friend, that was too much to ask from them; and they rather discuss no more with me.

There is no true light, or union without love.
How can a religion that preaches hate create true union and kills
How can a religion that preaches killing non-believers
(those who are sincere and brave enough to question
and criticize its brutality), create true union and peace?
Koran says that all those who disbelieve in Islam
(in his mass murder prophet ) go to hell ( 5:10).

Conflicts of beliefs (as in Islam...)
are inevitable, cannot be resolved by making sense,
so long as we resent and do not allow honest and criticism,
as a petty god of petty minds -
J. Krishnamurti called it...-  ;)

I rather have one single friend
with a true heart here and now,
than a belief in an afterlife
with a heartless god.

van Chapman - Philosophic Community Projects

-"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

When a religion calls for killing unbelievers,
killing those who leave it, this is a hijacking, a violation -
then it is clear that it is not love.
Then this religion has become the Sphinx
which will devour you, unless you decipher it.
***
That there is no compulsion in religion is only fair.
But if questioning is prohibited,
if one has to bow to someone, or a belief,
silencing the truth, if not flattering,
it is clear that this is not love, it is not light giving.
The belief overshadowed the light,
re-placed the truth. and became the creator
of unending conflict, murder and bloodshed,
instead of peace.
***
To kill for a criticism, is tyranny, slavery, not love,
not light-giving.
True love enlightens...
Love alone can convince me.
Our heart will not be convinced by threats or terrorism
that anything or anyone is holy or good!
However threatening, no one can overshadow the clarity
and reason of the love in our heart! (Unless we allow it !).
.***
Those who see this have deciphered the sphinx
and will not be devoured!
I rather one single friend with a true heart
in this life, than an afterlife with a heartless god !
***
van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects
(see link below to Islamic sources references)
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm





















Got it?

Answer to Muslim haters and truth haters:

Mohammed would kill someone who criticized him
or who would leave his belief  (Bukhari 52:260) !
Mohammed as his Koran are inhuman, if this is so.
Muslims are humans
but the belief can force some of them to act inhumanely.

What intelligent person (or God) would do this,
Force people to believe in him and act inhumanely,
or you will be killed?

Certainly they will never be a true prophet or God in my eyes!

"The use of assassination to achieve political/religious goals has been important throughout the history of Arabia and Islamic expansion, and the very word "assassin"[1] has Arabic roots (???????).
This list contains the results and reasons for the targeted killings and assassinations ordered or supported by Prophet Muhammad, as well as the primary sources which mention these incidents." End quote: https://wikiislam.net/…/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Support


A slave master relationship can turn you into a murderer.
Just look how dogs can be trained to do anything the boss orders!
But not if you free yourself from slavery!

Hitler condemned all Jews for being Jews,
Mohammed in the end would condemn all people for not following him
for not being Muslims.

I clearly denounce the tyranny in these ideologies.
Islamophobic,  Islam fearing, are those who will not leave Islam ,
or will not criticize Islam, out of fear,
or those who convert to Islam because they have been kidnapped by it,
by those who have been kidnapped or brain washed at their turn,
by this violent ideology or belief.

There would not be tyrants, if there was not subservience to them.


*


van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects
Your friend in love of truth

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Bukhari (52:260) - The Prophet (Mohammed) said, "If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him"

"The use of assassination to achieve political/religious goals has been important throughout the history of Arabia and Islamic expansion, and the very word "assassin"[1] has Arabic roots (???????).

This list contains the results and reasons for the targeted killings and assassinations ordered or supported by Prophet Muhammad, as well as the primary sources which mention these incidents." End quote: …https://wikiislam.net/…/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Support
This is a must read A Call To Muslims of the World:
http://naturestudio.net/philosophic_community_project.html ).


















I cannot help if you were hurt by something I said, if it was true.
But tell me please if I say something false and I thank you, and apologize.



Friends admit the truth to one another even if it hurts.
Certainly converting with the sword is never the way of true religion and wisdom. Something John Kerry secretary of State said about Islamic State Terrorists, that they are a militant Cult in name of a religion, does it not also apply to the way Mohammed imposed Islam later in his lifetime history, killing a whole city of jews, for example?
Here you find the links to this story and many others...
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articl…/sina/call_to_muslims.htm


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Who is loyal? A believer or a friend?

A believer who justifies everything you say and do,
not because it is right, but because you said it, or did it
or the friend, who sees you exactly as you are,
being, who may question you,
if it makes no sense what you say or do?


Who is a true friend?
One who admits the truth even if it hurts the ego,
(his own vanity or another's,
or one who will please his own vanity or another's
though hurting the justice and truth?


It is crucial to see this.


For bloody wars will forever be caused
by those who do not see this difference.
Who mistake the false for the real friend
the false from the real self,
in a relationship.

When there is a conflict, I simply ask sincerity between us,
so we may clear that between us. Is that too much, to ask?


***
According to a psychologist devotee of Osho Baghwan
(my sister Paula),I cannot help people, with my philosophy
because, she says, I hurt people.
And so she does not want me around.

Other devotees, (of Yogananda)
(my cousin Mariana Ovalle and a friend of hers, Joy Perrin)
agreed on something similar with my sister:
because I tried to reason with some of their
unquestionable beliefs, which made no sense to me.

Joy Perrin, asked me how could I
"live a deliberately obscure, ego- cantered nonsense
deliberately hurting people?"

and also said to me I knew nothing of Islam,
which she explained as simply a way
to make people lose their ego.

But after this false accusation, she, as well as Mariana,
wanted no more discussion.
And both blocked me, from their Facebook pages.
and I hear no more from them.

***
Here is something they probably never knew
or want to know about Islam:
If you join the Islam of Mohammed,(ISIS) you cannot leave.
Mostly Muslims will do not tell you this, and you do not know this
before it is too late.
Those from ISIS who would like to leave,
because they see the atrocities which are committed
based on Mohammed's life and Koran,
are literally hijacked by them, by the belief
if you want to quit the belief, try to leave, be careful,
for you can be killed!

Bukhari (52:260) The Prophet (Mohammed) said,
"If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him"
I have given them a link to where they can find out the truth about Islam: http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articl…/sina/call_to_muslims.htm
***
Well, they are right that my words can hurt people,
when our approaches to a relationship are diametrically opposed.
How are our approaches different?
This is what I decided to find out.
***
Since I was very young, sometimes when I looked into the eyes
of some Gurus and their disciples, for example
in Osho Baghwan's eyes,
even before I ever studied what they stood for or said.
There was something I really did not like or trusted in them.
I missed in them the kind of integrity I find in Jiddu Krishnamurti.
***

The same I felt many times when I visited spiritual communities,
in the exaggeratedly sweet smiles, and ways of many devotees.

(This was my first impression when I entered for the first time,
some places of worship, like those of the Self realization Fellowship
based on Yoganada.)

Studying what these Gurus said, and trying an honest dialogue
with their disciples, I found out what my feelings tried to tell me.


A self respecting philosopher, as a true friend,
puts aside his pride and deceitful self defence,
out of love for truth, love, justice.


The fundamental requirement in a guru-disciple relationship
is unquestioning obedience.

So, the self defence of belief in this kind of relationship
becomes more important than honesty.

When the image of the authority and the image of the belief
becomes sacred, in no matter what belief,

the priority becomes praise, flattery, above honest critic.
Blind submission above seeing for oneself.

The priority is preservation of the imago of sacredness,
above what we see is true, or see is love, or just.
above admitting what is true.

Belief between us takes priority
over sincerity between us.

So believers from whatever unquestionable belief,
which promote unreasoning fear to see for oneself,
develop a typical 'learning disability'.

We could call this unreasoning  belief 'learning disability'...
***
So, the sincerity of the true friend, can hurt indeed.
those who say you must silence the truth if not flattering,
who rather fake a smile or love they do not feel
than to be critical.

Those who must (make) believe 
that someone is perfect,
though they tell you not show your weaknesses to people.
***

Sincerity cannot hurt the humble
because the humble can explain it
if someone does not understand
and can apologise when they are wrong.

If we are true, we need not make believe we are perfect.
That is not important.
***
It are not the truth lovers
but those who pretend to be perfect,
unquestionable,
and the believers and flatterers of the proud,
who can be hurt, by sincerity.
who can make false accusations,
and want no more discussion.

It are the ones who fear to be true
to one another not to hurt each other's vanity
who act as hypocrites- who can demand
an unquestioning belief while they have
but will not confess when they are wrong,
will not show their weaknesses to people.


the unquestioning believers
and not the truth loving ones, are in the end
those who divide people in unsolvable conflicts,
because one may not question or reason with beliefs.

These are the ones, in fact, who are living
what they accuse others of:
"of a deliberately obscure, ego- centered nonsense";
even if they are very sweet,
and not deliberately hurting people.

van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects
*********************References




http://naturestudio.net/could_you_clarify_it.html


























Dear Obama


Dear Obama, are you aware, when Imams are preaching stoning of women and killing people for leaving Islam in European Mosques, or are you with your head in the sand in relation to the ideology of Islam?
***I agree not to insult someone for a belief but not to flatter a belief which insults everyone who is not of its belief!
The history of violent domination in the Koran, in the history of the prophet of Islam, which inspired to this day the atrocities, the barbaric punishments, the violent conversion, the death punishments in the Sharia laws of Muslim lands, all this contradicts Obama's statements that Islam is not violent, that Islam is a religion of peace.
Persons are not the image or belief we make of them.
Do you agree?
So how can a belief be the ultimate truth about anyone,
the ultimate reality or God?
***
Consciousness is the true spiritual nature of all beings.
To a truth lover, a person is not their religion, or their ideology.
the thoughts they have, for those can be changed
according to culture, conditioning.
A person is no more her or his beliefs,
than a fruit is the image we have of it in our mind.
Both the image we make of ourselves
as the image we make of others is just a creation- not the real I or you.
For a religion to do that, to make a prejudice against someone
for a mere belief, as the Koran does, is not to promote real love
and real peace between people.
Real peace and love, can only happen when people,
freely, spontaneously, see what is, for themselves.
Not trying to pursue an idea,
or living up to an image of what they are supposed to be.
.***
As anyone who understands what true love is, can see this:
A religion which first lures people in, with a promise of paradise,
obliging them to discriminate all people by what they believe,
discriminate and combat even physically,
non believers of its own belief, and orders to make war against them,
until no other religion is there in the world than its own,
this is a terrorist hijacking of people and minds.
(Bukhari (52:260) - 'If somebody (a Muslim)
discards his religion, kill him"),
this is not a religion any more.
***
Beliefs which say believe or die to people
are a violation of consciousness.
an obstruction for people to see things for themselves.
therefore to be truly sincere in a relationship.
But this threat is also a test,
to see what we value the most:
sincerity, love justice or out of fear for the tyrant,
or playing the game of flattery, prejudice, bigotry.
which is neither truth, love not justice.
Only between two conscious being can there be love
Not between two images, or two prejudices,
***
Authority and subservient submission to authority
is not the same as humbleness and true communion..
Communion in the spirit of truth, love justice implies equality,
Not that between a subject and an object.
where one of the partners considers the other as mere object.
The only faith which is self evident, to me, is that
Truth, Love, Justice is greater than untruth, hate, injustice.
is the greater than any one person.
No person above Truth, love, justice.
***
A Muslim terrorist, shouts " Allah is greater",
while he murders an unbeliever.
(who might simply be an honest a truth lover.
a follower of Jehovah, or Christ.)
is that Truth, Love, Justice?
***
To be God,
Jehovah or Christ or Allah had to be the same as
Truth, Love, Justice, no?
But are they, really? Wee must ask ourselves.
The only hope of harmony, in the end,
will be finding what that is: Truth, Love, Justice.
***
If Moses killed a whole community
of people for their beliefs,
is that Truth, Love, Justice?
If Jesus said we have to kill those
who do not accept him as their king,
is that Truth, Love, Justice?
If Mohammed mass murdered
any community for their beliefs
is that Truth, Love, Justice?
***
If the Bible's Jehovah or the Koran's Allah
teach to discriminate others by the mere thoughts
beliefs in their mind, and kill them for that,
when we are much more
than our mere conditioning ,
our thoughts or beliefs -
is that Truth, Love, Justice?
***
If we are loving Truth, Love, Justice, we can discuss about this,
but not if we are just justifying belief. even when contradicting itself.
If there is no discussion possible, because
there is no questioning our authority, is this Truth, Love, Justice?
***
In a communion of consciousness there can be love.
but if I relate not to you but to an image I have of you, a belief,
is that love?
Can there be any love
in a mere thought, of prejudices, of beliefs?
in discriminating people,
not by what they are in their essence,
but by that which they imagine to be true,
by a conditioning, tradition, for example?
There can be complicity, in prejudices,
as between those of a racist clan,
but not real love.
Love is something deeper than that.
***
Can there be any love a relation where someone
can kill you for a criticism
as Islamic history tells Mohammed did
(according to
"http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articl…/sina/call_to_muslims.htm").?
***
If one must silence the truth, when it is not praising, in a relation,
or one loses one's life, as in Islam, this relation cannot really be sincere.
I only ask sincerity in a friendship.
***
Can a relation of submission to an authority,
a slave-master relation ever be sincere?
***
The though we make of someone is not the same thing
as being aware of this person.
The thought images we make of each other,
the prejudices we have the beliefs we have about someone
are in fact what keeps us from seeing the real person.
From relating truly to each other.
prejudicing someone for their belief,
is cause of untruth, hate and injustice, between people.
it may bring conformity.
But is that peace? Is that true happiness?
***
So according to a belief where no criticism is allowed
and I will be killed if I leave it,
I must conform, not really be just happy now,
so that one day, I will be happy, in paradise, after I die.
Is not true paradise the very light of love in our souls,
in our hearts, which give us guidance?
***
According to Christ I must love my enemies,
love happens in the present.
not somewhere in the future after I die.
Love is the paradise within. This makes sense to me.
But according to Islam I must kill those who leave Islam,
for example. I may not take Christians or Jews as friends.
I am not to love my enemies (that is the enemies of Islam).
In Islam, I must discriminate people for what they believe.
when the truth is deeper than a belief.
Is that Truth-Love-Justice? Not for me.
***
.The Koran says a believer must fight for Islam.
If I must do that, I am hijacking people.
I will not do that.
Is this the peace of Islam ?
Tell me dear President Obama...
***
That is not what the light
of Truth, Love and Justice says in my heart it is right to do.
I could never convert with a sword as Mohammed did.
I do not have to kill unbelievers to create understanding, do I?
all we need is clarity and sincerity in a relation with people
(what slave master relation does not have).
***
Our true essential nature, is the love consciousness,
which is good.
The source of all delusion, misery and conflict
which destroys our relationships with each other
are the false thoughts.
***
One must see this for oneself.
I do not ask for belief ! :)


As a Hindu sage has said,
"The true self is i eternal and of endless love.
It will be revealed, when the false thought is destroyed."
(Ramana Maharishi)




Best wishes to all, from
van Chapman
Philosophic Community Project


References:
http://www.therebel.media/what_imams_are_saying_in_europe


* http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articl…/sina/call_to_muslims.htm
Answering-Islam.org


*"bigot" refers to a person whose habitual state of mind includes an obstinate, irrational, or unfair intolerance of ideas, opinions, ethnicity, or beliefs that differ from their own, and intolerance of the people who hold them. (Wikipedia).






-Philosophic Community Project -
van Chapman
For a peaceful and intelligent solution to terrorism.

One has to break free
from unquestioning beliefs
to be able to see the truth wherever it is, whoever has said !

http://www.naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html

It is crucial to see this.

***

In a dialogue  I ask not belief, but sincerity
"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

Here is how, in practice,
taking my own conclusions
and my own common sense has worked,
in my dialogues with believers and devotees
of different beliefs:

When I tried to philosophy, to make sense with devotees
(of Yogananda), for example, to my surprise;
this was their reaction:
-"How can you live an intentionally hurting,
ego centered nonsense?" (!!!)

I will briefly explain it.
During exchanges of ideas with one sweet devotee
(of Yogananda), she tried to give me advice
on how to solve a relationship conflict with someone.
She told me that any criticism should be silenced,
that truth should be silence, if not flattering!.
According to her,  I had not to point out anything
that was wrong in the way this person acted.
I just had to act lovingly, towards her,even fake it,
if I did not feel it...!

I was surprised! This was compassion, in her view.
Clearing up was not important, because it was hurting!

-Who is hurt by a sincerity and truth, if not flattering?
I asked. The true self or the ego?
If what one says is true,
are we to blame that the other is proud and hurt,
and not humble?
is pleasing the vanity of others a true relationship?

***

I do not ask for belief.
You may question me, challenge me!
I ask sincerity. That we be coherent,
consequent  in what we say to each other.

She asks neither one of those!

Neither sincerity nor coherence, neither reason
nor being consequential.
Her Guru and her say
one must not show our weaknesses to people.
But he, Yogananda, and she ask unquestioning belief!

and this what is hypocritical to my eyes,
she calls devotion, loyalty!

I ask  sincerity. not belief
My sweet devotees, ask belief,
but real sincerity, rather not!

****

Not only only sweet devotees ask to silence truth-
criticism, if not flattering. -tyrannic people ask that too.
In the news today is how Erdogan, president of Turkey,
shut down a news paper because it criticized
his government policies.

History tells that prophet Mohammed also asked  to silence
criticism, if not flattering to his image and the image of Islam,
for the sake of authority, or belief!
Mohammed even  murdered for a criticism.
And this can be called "sacredness"...


Another believer I met, interested in the Kaliphaat,
also could not take any form of criticism to it.
Though boasting of the Islam, he did not assume
a  public dialogue with me-He rather stay anonymous...

(He liked to start a writing  by saying:
"In name of Allah"...then  proceeded to tell prosaic things.
-Have you no respect for Allah?  I asked him.
How can you speak no matter what in your God's name?
We are on friendly terms, but,
as with my Yogananda devotees,
this believer did not want further questions from me.
I had to stop telling the truth, if that was not flattering
to the imago of his belief.

Philosophy is to look at what is,
not avoid it in self defense.

I hope this Muslim I call Erci now he sees the real horror IS is doing,
sees what the  'return of the Kaliphat' really means,
and realized how he  was completely deluded!

Philosophic Community Project
van Chapman



One
is love
Beliefs are many

Refference:
Call to the Muslims of the World
from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm



What has self defence to do with philosophy, wisdom or truth?


BELIEF APOLOGETICS
OFTEN SEE THE CONTRADICTIONS OF THEIR OPPONENTS.
BUT AVOID TO SEE OR CONFESS THOSE OF THEIR OWN...
And to this they call self defence.

One
is love
Beliefs are many

New page :  Update your God






14 Oct. 2014
To pre-scientific societies, the world was flat,
the sun and the stars turned around the earth.
At sunset, the sun sunked
in a mud pool at the horizon.

The biblical 'Day of Creation'
would be around 3761 BC.

And some of their "Words of God"
told to kill unbelieves!

Surely God's Word needs urgent updating…


Are believers of any belief system able to be true
and coherent in a philosophical dialogue,
when this is what they say?

Who is hurt by the truth which is not flattering,
even if it may be true?
Our pride or our humbleness?

Who is hurt by a criticism, when it is negative,
if  not flattering, even if it is true?
Our one's own or another's pride, ego.
our false self, no doubt..

Who would rather flatter someone
and be flattered,
even when the other is or we are mistaken?

I have spoken to both fanatic and non-fanatic believers.
But whether they were simple devotees, or terrorists,
(those who justified terrorism
based on what is written in a a so called "Holy book"
or authority, Koran or Bible or another),
they were not coherent, in a dialogue with me.

Believers and their authorities
ask belief in the perfection of someone.

above reson, above sincerity, and call this loyalty.


***


The truth lover, as a true philosopher, asks not for perfection
but  sincerity and truth, not belief.
A believer, instead, asks for belief in the perfection
of someone, of an authority, but not sincerity.


The truth lover, as a true philosopher,
does not mind being confronted.
for if falselly accused, one can clarify it.

The believer of an unquestionable authority,

Fears to confront his belief with what makes sense,
fears to be confronted in his belief
because he may not question belief.
***

Terrorists are not afraid of bombs, but of questions
***
The truth lover, as a true philosopher,
has faith in the potential consciousness of people.
The believer of an unquestionable authority
believe in a god who cannot explain himself
or createe understanding,
but must only be obeyed
flattered,
not criticized,
however nonsense his prophet may say,or do
(like marriing a child, and mass mudering a whole city for not believing in him for example,)
or threaten to send people to an eternal hell.
***

To this day there are still people who believe
in a God who cannot reason,
who could kill his children in hell fire
if they simply reasoning with him.
A perverse teacher would kill his students,
if not passing their exams
in one lifetime, a mere moment in eternity,
and  torture them for the rest of eternity,
instead of enlightening them,
giving them wisdom,

killing their ignorance.
rather than killing them.
Just a horrific monster of a teacher!

A truth lover as a philosopher has faith
in mutual understanding between people
not blind obedience to power.

And in collaboration,
not competition

not in a irrational fear
and an irrational belief!

in an intelligent dialogue,
as this one can be in love of truth,
and for the justice of true love between us
human beings



Here is a link to a page: - Update-your-god 
http://naturestudio.net/updateyourgod.html















If I did not trust the potential consciousness
in humans, and even in some animals,
I would not have even started a dialogue with them...


***

If I would be among those who hate
I would believe that the only solution to the conflict of belief,
the only war on terror, was bloody violence, not reason.


I see that love is greater than hate.

truth, love and justice,
is above everyone, even the one  think to be God!
















Who fears the truth, the humble or the proud?


The conflict of beliefs dividing people on earth
for millenniums can be cleared up.



I have faith in a spirit of truth, love, justice.
I call this the Holy Spirit.

But it has not to do with what the Churches
have done or said in name of God if it not make any sense
and contradict truth, love, justice, itself

As I see for myself, a good question can create clarity,
where there was none!

This is my faith.

***

Are believers of any belief system able to be coherent,
consequent, able to reason with their beliefs? I ask.

In practice, this is just how it goes:
To understand something, we have to look at it.
This is the first thing.
So we have to look into it our beliefs,
into its contradictions, with humility- abandon all pretense.
We need humble, sincere, fearless awareness.
for self awareness.

Is that possible?
Can you do that as a believer?
be self aware in relation to what we believe?
To the in-consequences in beliefs, not only those of others, but our own?
Can we do that together  in a dialogue without fighting?
In a civilized, courteous and honest way?
















Who are we? Our vanity?


Here is an example from my experience in dialoguing
with believers:
A devotee of Yogananda used to say to me
that criticism, even if true, should be silenced.

She did not like to prove anyone right or wrong.
she said.
She also did not like to be proved wrong.
Even if she was wrong.

On the other hand, she did not mind to 'make believe'
She even advises me I try to do this.
To fake a love or a smile if I did not feel it,
in order to please others.
This is compassion, in her eyes.
but, is this not the ego, we try to please with flatter,
is this not a relationship of appearances, of masks,
instead of a true one, when I have to appear to be loving
to be happy when I am not?

Is compassion with others
or ourselves, to create awareness,
to create understanding,
just relationships with each other,
or feed each other's ego, each other's pride?


How can we even start to clear any conflict
with whom must seem happy and sweet
even when they do not feel it
and who tries to look away from conflicts
or silence defects ?
























In all systems of belief,
the unquestioning believer is proud
on behalf of his unquestioning authority.
And these authorities contradict each other.
creating unsolvable problems, mysery and wars.

The problem of the contradictions
in name of God which create the most hopeless wars
for millenniums, which I try to show her,
talk about it to her, is not even a  problem for her;
because she can even pretend it does not exist!

If you criticize devotees like these,
their belief, even if the critic is well founded,
they might say (quote):
"live on meaningless, deliberately obscure,
Ego- centered nonsense" (end quote).
And  before you can explain and clear it up, between you
you are blocked, from the discussion on Facebook!

Similarity, a terrorist,
could even kill you for a critic on his prophet,
even if what you say is true!!

Understanding the source of the conflict
gerated by unquestioning beliefs
is not an issue to believers.

They are even suppose to like to make war,
in the Islam, not to reason for themselves,
or question if the authority is right, or wrong.

Believers can be proud on behalf of their authorities.
for they might rage at you for a criticism.
I love what St Éxupéry wrote:
"But the conceited man did not hear him.
Conceited people never hear anything but praise."
(The Little Prince: Chapter 11).


No honest, sincere, intelligent dialogue but war!"


This is the stupidity of the terrorist Jihad !
This is the cage of authority they are in and want to drag you in to.
by any means.

Jiddu Krishnamurti understood this before I born.
and I remain grateful to him for being free and showing this to the world!

How can a mind full of beliefs have clarity,
asked Krishnamurti.


As my friend devotee  they depend on another to see for them
they just have to repeat what they say as a mantra.
the problem is lack of self awareness;

The conflict they live in is not important.
they learn to shovel it under the carpet!

The real problem for them is clearing up!






















I am not offering a belief system.
only a  no-nonsense honesty in a dialogue.

To me it is self evident
self evidence
that that truth love justice are greater
than untruth, hate, injustice.
This is an understanding rather than a belief, but this is true faith!


If the criticism is right, I will apologize,
and if I  was misunderstood,
I like to explain clear it up in our relationship.



Confrontations can be inspiring,
if you do not fear the truth.


So this I understood better now:
whether they are sweet devotees, or criminal terrorists, 
unquestionable authorities all have  this in common:
lihe the conceited (van) man of St éxupéry,
they not hear if you say a truth to them about their belief, if not flattering,
they  never hear anything but praise.


They only hear cumpliments
they are afraid of questions.


To my friend believers,
with my best wishes that one day you will admit it is true I say here.

To put the head in the sand is not away to God or self realization!

Your friend in love of truth.

van Chapman,
Philosophic Community Project

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much more if in name of wisdom, or of God).

Please sign and re-pass this petition:
"To condemn another one needs proof, not belief!"
van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects

*********************References
Bukhari (52:260) - The Prophet (Mohammed) said, "If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him"

PS: This link does not always work on Facebook, so Google it).
This is a must read   A Call To Muslims of the World (http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

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Naturestudio VZW                                                            
Algemene vergadering 2016
With  inspiration derived from direct contact with unspoiled nature, in photos by Myriam Vandenberghe, or photos,  films and and writings by van Chapman,  we continue creating new  series of Naturestudio Timeline Photos, and sending them through the World Wide Web, to promote the beauty of nature, of love, truth  and justice. - Through its Philosophic Community Project, in particular, van Chapman proposes an intelligent, peaceful prevention of terrorism and world conflict, through dialogue, reason,  (rather than justification of injustice and war).

"The challenge and solution for the conflict of beliefs in this world, is to place justice and truth above anyone, not vice versa."
We like to promote a way of relationship free of hypocrisy, based on fearless sincerity in a friendship, clarity and mutual understanding, rather than a way based on 'unquestioning' authorities, (such as the beliefs on prophets, gurus, masters, dictators, or mafia bosses , (relation in which one must silence the truth, if not flattering to each other's beliefs). 

Naturestudio has sent this message around the world, to reporters, radio, or TV senders as BBC and CNN, to the United Nations Security Counsil, to members of the Parliament and Counsil of Europe, to organizations as Climate Change (Al Gore), or party leaders as Geert Wilders (Nederlands), to members of  the FBI, and anti terrorism organizations,  heads of countries as president Obama in the US,  François Hollande (France), Angela Merkel (Germany), Elio Di Rupo and Louis Michel (Belgium), Dilma Rousseff (Brasil), and David Cameron, (prime minister of the UK), to mention some people.

Here are some links: https://plus.google.com/b/107641020759062767460/photos/+NaturestudiovzwGent/albums/6014442166732768481,

our website:  http://www.naturestudio.net/

and other  social media as Youtube,

Twitter:  https://twitter.com/van_chapman/media,

Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/naturestudio.net,

and  Google+:

  https://plus.google.com/+GeraldineFonsecaChapmanvanChapmanartist/posts

Naturestudio has tried to transmit a vision for a more reasonable, united and peaceful world, chalenging believers of all creeds to reason and seek the truth , rather than to make war to each other based on prejudices and beliefs.

As before, Naturestudio has not earned but spent our private material resources with the help of Myriam and Carl Vandenberghe, to realize Naturestudio's projects.


Present, the founders:  Geraldine Fonseca Chapman, (artist name: van Chapman), founder and  president,

Myriam Vandenberghe, stichter, bestuurder, secretaris-penningmeester;

Carl Vandenberghe, bestuurder,  hulpsecretaris


Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm

Share Your Thoughts: 
Should capital punishment be abolished?

Call to the Muslims of the World from a Group of Freethinkers and Humanists of Muslim Origins
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/call_to_muslims.htm
Truth love justice makes sense.

To place someone above truth love justice who lies,
hates and commits injustice and call it God
may be thought to be religious,
but in fact it makes no sense at all!


Philosophic Community Project
Love is One, religions are many.
van Chapman
https://www.facebook.com/naturestudio.net/photos
Naturestudio

Here is a truth lover: Son of Hamas Leader -Mosab Hassan:
He sees no difference between terrorist Muslims and the moderate Muslims.
Moderate Muslims are more dangerous,
because they lie when they say Islam is a religion of peace
and when they deny the truth that Islam is what terrorists do
following the violent example of Mohamed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-T3wgU1w_w#t=34.37
What if we could tune into a musical heaven?
"The voice of eternal love music project"
This is still only a dream.
Proposition: the creation of an channel of uninterrupted transmission of the highest artistic level which bring to all people
the expression of the most noble sentiments of the human consciousness and soul.

Any suggestions of how this dream could become reality can be given to us on facebook  https://www.facebook.com/naturestudio.net

Philosophic Community Projects
True angels destroy not men, but the falseness in them.

http://www.naturestudio.net/voice_of_eternal_love_music_project.html

"Do not believe in anything, no matter where you have read or who said it, even if I'm the one who said it, unless it agrees with your own conclusions and your own common sense."-Buddha

Should all people of the Earth share the same belief, or understand the true meaning of love ?

EXTRACTS of the book
"Light over water"



















version for the web Text only.
A meditation on love- consciousness
Copyright Geraldine Fonseca Chapman
artist name van Chapman




Love is one,
beliefs are many

A HIDDEN TREASURE

























If Art is about inner truth, then nothing could be more actual in this world (of global warming, fratricide wars), than the treasures Myriam Vandenberghe discovers or creates in the silence of her kind soul. Rather than futuristic nightmares, I would rather  live in  the magical gardens she architects for the future: The green, pure, innocent, violence-free worlds  she paints and photographs.

As  the great classical music, Myriam's art and being, can be seen today as of another time; and  forgotten.
How much per cent of the population listens to the treasure of classical music in Radio stations as Klara? Alarming statistics in the past, if I remember well, said it is around one per cent of the population in the area.  I do not know if it has evolved.
The explanation for this phenomena is in the spiritual level of the masses.
As the stronger wavelengths of popular radio stations (like radio Donna) have dulled away the cultural radios, as Klara, in Belgium,  pop culture gurus would dull her work off the scene.

For most of the people, the real treasure of classic music or of Myriam's art is still buried.

Has the time come for it to be discovered ?  I can only present this mysterious person to you, personally, or through my own work, and hope you will see them as the treasures they are. The answer depends on you.



click to see more of  MYRIAM'S WORK :
[Nature photos-Myriam Vandenberghe]

and
[Nature paintings-Myriam Vandenberghe]





A WEB-SHOP for art
the eventual profit of selling of our nature photos will go to our non profit society
naturestudio VZW

A WEB SHOP

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Myriam’s PHOTOS for sale :

http://www.littlevangogh.be/nlX/index.php?p=foto_series&website_version=2015&artistID=19&language=nl













van Chapman's PHOTOS for sale:

http://www.littlevangogh.be/nlX/index.php?p=foto_series&website_version=2015&artistID=20&language=nl





We are not our beliefs.
We can believe the earth is flat, 
until we are shown it is a sphere.
We are still the same humans, only the belief changed...
Got it?

Answer to Muslim haters and truth haters:

Mohammed would kill someone who criticized him
or who would leave his belief  (Bukhari 52:260) !
Mohammed as his Koran are inhuman, if this is so.
Muslims are humans
but the belief can force some of them to act inhumanely.

What intelligent person (or God) would do this,
Force people to believe in him and act inhumanely,
or you will be killed?

Certainly they will never be a true prophet or God in my eyes!


A slave master relationship can turn you into a murderer.
Just look how dogs can be trained to do anything the boss orders!
But not if you free yourself from slavery!

Hitler condemned all Jews for being Jews,
Mohammed in the end would condemn all people for not following him
for not being Muslims.

I clearly denounce the tyranny in these ideologies.
Islamophobic,  Islam fearing, are those who will not leave Islam ,
or will not criticize Islam, out of fear,
or those who convert to Islam because they have been kidnapped by it,
by those who have been kidnapped or brain washed at their turn,
by this violent ideology or belief.

There would not be tyrants, if there was not subservience to them.


*


van Chapman -Philosophic Community Projects
Your friend in love of truth

(********************References
Bukhari (52:260) - The Prophet (Mohammed) said, "If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him"

"The use of assassination to achieve political/religious goals has been important throughout the history of Arabia and Islamic expansion, and the very word "assassin"[1] has Arabic roots (???????).

This list contains the results and reasons for the targeted killings and assassinations ordered or supported by Prophet Muhammad, as well as the primary sources which mention these incidents." End quote: …https://wikiislam.net/…/List_of_Killings_Ordered_or_Support
This is a must read A Call To Muslims of the World:
http://naturestudio.net/philosophic_community_project.html ).



To condemn another one needs proof, not belief!

If only one understood this, one could not be a terrorist!

-A worldwide proposal :
help raise consciousness to prevent terrorism!

Please sign and re-pass this petition:


Sign
the petition
here on change.org
True angels
destroy not men,
but the falseness in them.


Ultimately,  justice is to destroy falseness, not the false person!
To condemn another one needs proof, not belief!

Philosophic Community Project



































































August 2015
Dear President Obama,
My respect to you and your almost superhuman efforts to better your country and the world! You have been one of the best presidents ever, as far as I can see!

Just trying to help! This is the idea:The meaning of true love, the holy spirit is: If union makes strength, love is stronger than any other force- no religion teaching hate will win!
That is why one must not fear but unmask the fundamental violation of human rights of for example: Islamic State.?
Muslims famous moto is: -" Allah is Greater". If they mean convert by the sword, they have lost already in the court of the heart, for that is not justice!

I say love, the Holy Spirit is Greater, because I can prove Mohammed's Allah was not a product of a loving mind! And I did prove it, and anyone can!

You can add all tyranny to the list of powers that have already lost the final battle in the hearts of honest people!

In a philosophic dialogue or debate, the moment you place your personal conveniences above the truth you have already lost the discussion!


Best wishes for the peace in the world!
Philosophic Community Project
van Chapman
https://plus.google.com/+GeraldineFonsecaChapmanvanC…/posts

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