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True angels destroy not men,
but the fa
lseness in them.
van Chapman
This idea of a God who sends anyone to hell is badly told story.
It is hate itself what creates all spiritual hell for ourselves and in this world. The God who has no mercy, no understanding but hate before human ignorance, is a mere projection of our own ego and pride of power, of  idolatry of and subservience to our own human arrogance.

If a spirit  would rather promote violence and war ( Jihad), condemning honest critic, honest discussion and questioning (unbelief), it cannot be  truly intelligent.
It cannot be of love.
It cannot bring true peace to all people on the Earth.


Is it too dangerous to stand beside someone who says this ?


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What I try to say to this Muslim,
(even when he denies all evident violence in his holy book)
is this:
One does not clear someone's consciousness,
nor brings order to someone's thoughts
by cutting off his head.


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Light and peace to you my friend. Wishing all the best in life to you,
van Chapman




Hate is the false prophet,
love is the true master.
There is no holy ground which
has been won
by cruel violence and hate.

Holy is the love and understanding
between all people.

  van Chapman       
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The best wishes to all.


WORLD News.
Arabs are questioning tyranny worldwide.
This is good. But do they question the tyranny in name of God??
Muslim suicide bombers not only kill themselves but innocent people indiscriminately.
Is this the work  of true faith or pure irrational hate or despair?

As I Krishnamurti said,
the God of a Petty mind is a petty God.

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ABOUT UNQUESTIONABILITY
WHAT SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS and POWER LOVING TEACHINGS DO NOT HAVE IN COMMON:
Violence is a most stupid argument. A Philosopher does not consider belief or unbelief a problem.
No reason not to be a friend of, or to kill someone.



Spiritual teachings pre-existed Abraham tradition and the streams of Monotheism.

From the ancient times of civilization, the wisdom of Lao Tzu ( (604 - 531 BC ), of Buddha (around 563 BC- 483 BC), of Socrates (460-429 BC), previous to  Judaism, Catholicism or the Islam, all  have shown that simple awareness (in particular spiritual self awareness), not subjugating power, brings out the potential understanding and natural order to the mind and relationships.
Questions may be the very way to tap within for spiritual self awareness, all knowledge and self knowledge.

The repression of questioning leads to fanatism and tyranny. The moment you create an unquestionable authority you also create hell.
The tragic comedy of unreasoning, unquestioning beliefs, is that all opposing parties consider themselves to be the heroes, the martyrs  and who send each other literally to hell, in the slaugter of the so called 'holy' wars, which have nothing of holy,  from the point of view of love and intelligence. 

Is unquestioning, indiscriminate submission, convenient for the world today? Has it ever been?


Abraham's willingness not to question, but to kill even his own son, out obedience to whom he considered God,  is revered in all ramifications of this Monotheistic tradition.
Abraham has set out the example of the way of relationship of blind obedience, even in a crime, to religious authority.
To have faith in an ultimate justice is good, but can there be justice without love, without spiritual discernment??

This lack of discrimination venerated until today as sacred, combined with different interpretations and ramifications belief,  have caused the most absurd and horrific violence, injustice, crime in human history: those committed and justified  in name of God.

Since then, distancing itself from the compassion and understanding of the Spirituality or Eternal philosophy; systems of Belief 
crumble now before those who have eyes to see, when the fruits of pride of power and the blind submission (even in a crime), come to the light:
The never ending bloodbaths we see (here also on Canvas TV)  these times.

Little has humanity learned from its bloody history because horrors have even been justified by these Monotheistic religions and as said before, to project our prejudices on others or on what is, and want no discussion, is the main cause of disruption in any relationship, the source of all darkness, all hopeless conflicts in relationships.

Abraham could have stopped and asked himself  if he could trust anyone or any spirit as just and good, who would order him to murder anyone, in particularly, an innocent child. Then history would have perhaps had a much better turn.

But it is never too late.
The future starts now and it starts with you.



Before true peace and understanding can reign between any of us, there must be a revolution, as said Krishnamurti, which is truly intelligent. As solving of differences peacefully, through meditation, awareness and dialogue, not mentally or physically as brute dinosaurs.

Only through the consciousness of love one can see the beauty of Nature and  the ugliness and stupidity of vanity, of greed, arrogance, also in the animals, which to the immature mind is so 'cool'.


Only love is just and no prophet and guru, savior,  holy book or anyone one has beaten love yet.




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First time I read K. I must have been 17 and felt I could understand and explain what he meant to the word.
(Read no more than one or two of his books). I run a non profit society called Naturestudio:  www.naturestudio.net
Making now a page there on Krishnamurti and would like to have some of his lectures to link to it and photos, if possible.
Can anyone provide them to me?

Have met Krishnamurti 3 times later, first time in 1980 at Saanen, Switzerland.

(Then I was invited by the first principal, Mrs. Simmons to teach in His School in the UK.
I told Mrs Simmons I had no diploma, but she answered that my small book,
called Love and death, which I had offered to Krishnamurty, that was a diploma...
I thanked her but at the time I must travel to see as much as possible of nature around the world.
I became a travelling artist.)

By the way my familly (someone was from the Theosophic society in Rio)
has received K in their home in an exotic island off shore from Rio de Janeiro, called Paqueta,
when my mother was still a kid. I remember some pictoresque romantic stories of the women
who were impressed with his beauty (not what he meant).
If I can find some photos I will remember your archive.


All the best,
Geraldine Fonseca Chapman
Artist  name: van Chapman


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"Terrorists are not afraid of bombs, they are afraid of questions."
from a dialogue with a muslim
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'If the history of Mohammed is true or not, one cannot know,
but it is violence what transforms an organized religion into an organized crime.'

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Who fears honest questioning,
honest investigation?
Not the innocent, humble and honest, but
someone who fears the truth, fears losing faith,
or someone intent on authority over others,
at whatever price.
.
Not God, if God is true.


  The similarity between Genghis Khan's methods of war rape and crimes against humanity
in trying to conquer the world, and the methods of war against unbelievers for the sake of Islam in Mohamed's Koran are astonishing.





NOTE

In a film "The Other Israel" http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xkgn49_the-other-israel-ted-pike-full-video_news#rel-page-1   presented by an American Christian preacher, it is shown how Judaism has tried to dominate the World to this day.

This priest, in a Christian  unquestioning biased view, typical of the tradition of Abraham, overlooked the fact that the Biblical Jesus was contradicting his own command 'Love your enemies' when he considered Jewish  Pharisees as less than human, and ordered them to be killed.
Luke 6:[27] "But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.)

He shows that though perversions such as child sex abuse were justified by Rabbis in the Jewish Talmud, in the unquestioning biased  view typical of the tradition of Abraham they taught that those who are not Jewish, called Gentiles, (also Christians), were perverse, should be deprived of all property and all rights, treated in court not as equal to Jews but as less than human and that they may kill them though indirectly.

But this American Christian did not show that the Islam itself  in the same unquestioning biased view of the tradition of Abraham, tries to dominate the world, with contradicting commands about religious tolerance, telling Muslims in the Koran to consider non Muslims as less than Muslims not to befriend and even to kill Jews and Christians, at the time of its prophet.

True philosophers, as saints or holy sages, would never convert humans through the sword, but bring about enlightenment and understanding through honesty, clarity, insight and an intelligent dialogue.




NOTESThe tragic comedy of unreasoning, unquestioning beliefs, is that all opposing parties consider themselves to be the heroes, the martyrs  and who send each other literally to hell, in the slaugter of the so called 'holy' wars, which have nothing of holy,  from the point of view of love and intelligence.

 
Koran: “Slay the enemy where you find him" (Surah 9.92). If by enemy in the Koran it is meant non Muslims, those who say LOVE YOUR ENEMIES, Luke 6:[27] " Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, [28] bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.", if by enemy in the Koran it is meant nonbelievers, Christians, Hindus, Buddhists or anyone who is so compassionate he will not kill another for a difference of belief, or even a sheep, if they are vegetarians, then the Koran is unacceptable, and Mohammed is not a saint but a false prophet.  






The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice.  God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh.  Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are "pleasing to the Lord":

http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm   Quote : The Bible, especially the Old Testament, is filled with numerous stories of animal and human sacrifice.  God, we are told, likes the pleasing aroma of burning flesh.  Animal sacrifice is much more common than human sacrifice, but both occur and are "pleasing to the Lord".
    Genesis, the first book of the Bible, has Abraham preparing to sacrifice his son to God.  "Take your son, your only son – yes, Isaac, whom you love so much – and go to the land of Moriah.  Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will point out to you."  (Genesis 22:1-18)  Abraham takes his own son up on a mountain and builds an altar upon which to burn him.  He even lies to his son and has him help build the altar.  Then Abraham ties his son to the altar and puts a knife to his throat.  He then hears God tell him this was just a test of his faith.  However, God still wanted to smell some burnt flesh so he tells Abraham to burn a ram.
    Even though he didn't kill his son, it is still an incredibly cruel and evil thing to do.  If Abraham did that today he would be in jail serving a long sentence as someone's prison-bitch.  It amazes me how Christians see this story as a sign of God's love.  There is no love here, just pure unadulterated evil." End Quote


ABOUT UNQUESTIONABILITY
WHAT SPIRITUAL TEACHINGS
and POWER LOVING TEACHINGS DO NOT HAVE IN COMMON:

Violence is a most stupid argument.
A Philosopher does not consider belief or unbelief a problem.
No reason not to be a friend of, or to kill someone.
True philosophers, as saints or holy sages,
would never convert humans through the sword,
but bring about enlightenment and understanding
through honesty, clarity, insight and an intelligent dialogue.




  van Chapman       
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The best wishes to all




A SUGGESTION TO THE ARMY IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND AROUND THE WORLD:

THE BEST WAY TO GAIN THE HEARTS OF THE PEOPLE IS TO USE ITS MEN AND FORCE UNITS  TO HELP THE VICTIMS OF GREAT DISASTERS INSTEAD OF CAUSING THEM.



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